To start, I would like to mention that there are many good opportunities for a valued status like chat mod/rollbacker and admin; there are few people that can obtain such a high rank, it's flattering when one is chosen. However, not all people are meant to match their duties with honor...
I've learned a lot, despite my time duration on Warriors Wiki totalling slightly more than a month. I have learned much of the WikiText provided to clean-up articles and have obtained knowledge from my mistakes all around. Some of these mistakes slip away, a masked mystery later, but some mistakes cling more to certain minds..
Skye has proven many incapabilities of being chat moderator; she purposely does her best to pick fights with other people whose opinion she proceeds to disagree with. Yet, Skye always makes an effort to get upset when people disagree with her own opinion. Nobody points out this flaw of hers as they may fear Skye's power (which is greatly abused). Otherwise, the reason is beyond me.
The screenshots following are revealing an argument that Skye and I had inside of the chatroom. Other posts have been cut out as they are irrelevant to the topic, but if one wishes for the full chatroom then I will gladly hand over that screenshot as well. Please proceed to follow the links in order, as they will be easier to understand.
http://www.iaza.com/work/120627C/iaza14983280049400.png
I don't have the screenshot, but Skye calls me annoying, which leads up to this:
http://www.iaza.com/work/120627C/iaza14983271115800.png
What makes her last post very immature itself is that Policy for the Wikia (not just Warriors Wiki) in the Assume Good Faith section reports that those who make mistakes should not be scolded, but be corrected. In this very screenshot, Skye admits to scolding me when I am wrong, therefore causing her to break the policy's rules.
Skye also has the tendency to believe that she may gain free strikes among the rules; I do not understand why. She is not exempt from following the Wiki Rules simply for the reason that she is Rollbacker. I am not making any accusations for the way she thinks, but I am making an accusation for the way she treats others then herself. Again, please follow the screenshots in order.
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http://www.iaza.com/work/120627C/iaza14983288564200.png
She had just told a new member that she'd ban them for complaining of boredom, yet she brings up that she is bored as well? She indirectly states it, but the meaning is quite obvious. She also posts a link in chat without being asked. It is noted heavily in the Chatroom rules that posting links without any given permission is prohibited. Once more, I will gladly hand over the full screenshot if asked, as I only cropped the important parts to be mentioned here.
http://www.iaza.com/work/120627C/iaza14983255402600.png
I don't believe that Skye has the qualities of her rank among the Wiki; she is rude to others in chat, breaks rules and picks fights with other members. She deliberately causes trouble for reasons hidden to me. Skye may have more experience on the Wiki, but until she learns to respect and learn about others and rules, then I know I doubt her position. User:Starry Hawk/SigJun 26, 2012; 23:37pm
No. I will not stand for this. Cloudy is an incredible chat mod and she deserves all rights given to her. What was so bad about the "the truth to you"? It was true. Cloudy does her best as a chatmod, and when she was complaining about being bored, she was editing the entire day, which the newbie perhaps wasn't. When has Cloudy picked arguments with users she dislikes? If she has, it's not because she dislikes them, it's because she feels their argument is something that needs to be questioned. And the "link" she posts without questions, is not a link that links to websites outside of our Wiki - it's an image that she posted in another tab to avoid the file. It's still apart of Warriors Wiki.
Overall, I feel that these arguments are incorrect. Cloudy is an great chatmod, and the actions she does is for a reason, and not to break the rules. She does not deserve to have this Vote of no Confidence against her. And Starry, when you say, "Cloudy provokes arguments against users she dislikes", what are you doing right now? Due to screenshots above, it's clear that you don't exactly favor Cloudy, but however, you are using debates against her that can be used for you. Appledash the light of honor 23:46, June 26, 2012 (UTC)
She was provoking trouble with me in the truth to me screenshot when she knows that can turn into a full fight easily. If she knows better, why does she do it? As for the new member topic, whether she had been editing the whole day or not does not matter to me; she threatened to abuse her powers then does the same thing that the new member did about three minutes later. I, however, will give in for the link topic. I don't favor Skye for what trouble she has caused, true. But I have posted this because I truly believe that multiple Wiki members, other than me, have been treated harshly by Skye and would do better if she was demoted. User:Starry Hawk/SigJun 27, 2012; 00:00am
- Actually, Starry, it is not abusing my powers to chat ban someone from the chat room when they refuse to edit. The chat room is a privilege, not a right, and those who sit idly without editing do not deserve to be in the chat room. Myself and other chat mods have banned users from the chat for their refusal to edit the wiki. —Jayce (00:02,6/27/2012)
- I'm well aware of the fact that mods are allowed to ban users from the chat room due to lacking in their editing. However, was the new member lacking so many edits that you had to scold them right there and then? Or was it simply a coincidence? User:Starry Hawk/SigJun 27, 2012; 00:09am
- Actually, if memory serves, they had been complaining of being bored almost the entire time they were in there. I have that right, since they had little, if any, contributory mainspace edits. If a user sits around and complains they are bored, despite there being so much work to do on the wiki, do you honestly think I'm going to sit around and let them idle around in the chat room? —Jayce (00:13,6/27/2012)
She was provoking trouble? Unless I'm blind, no. That wasn't how it was. However, she was not abusing her powers. The new member could edit but instead complained of boredness all day, while Cloudy did something productive all day. And mind you, a lot of Wiki members respect Skye. True, Cloudy can be short with users, but it's because of all the work she has done for this Wiki can be exhausting sometimes. She has done so much for this Wiki, edits it, and does the best she can to enforce the rules, however, you are only looking at the "fights" she "provoked" with you? No. That is senseless. Where would we be if Cloudy was demoted? There is no user that defends the Wiki, edits, and enforces the policy as much as Skye does. She does not deserve what you are giving her. Appledash the light of honor 00:04, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
- I know that editing is stressful. But I don't sit around occasionally complaining of boredom and treating users in the harsh manner that Skye does. Do you think I try not to be short with users after I edit? You are acting like Skye is the only person who contributes to this Wiki. User:Starry Hawk/SigJun 27, 2012; 00:09am
This issue of a VoNC is not fair and I know it will not pass. As Icey has said, Cloudy has a right to state she was bored in the chat because she actively edits. If you do not edit on the Wiki, then you are only on the site for socializing, and that is stated in the rules that is forbidden. She is only doing her job. I have never, ever once see Cloudy "pick a fight". If there is a debate going on, she will state her opinion, but that's what a debate is for. Again, as Icey has pointed out, she has a lot on her plate and it can be tiring to deal with new users, but she is never unjust or unfair. She tries to help new users and help them gain their privilege to be in the chat. I really feel strongly against this VoNC because Cloudy deserves everything she's worked hard for to have. Iveh Yo! 00:12, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
- Again I say, is Skye the /only/ user who edits on this Wiki? No. So she should have to put up with the stress like the rest of us. User:Starry Hawk/SigJun 27, 2012; 00:17am
Now I'm staying out of the argument of this. I don't intend to get involved with the fight. however, Starry, when giving screenies for proof you should not crop them and remove them from context. We currently can't see any of the context that was happening at the time of most of these, and without that, these can't be considered real proof. Paleh Send help 00:12, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
- Then ask for the full screenies; I /do/ have them. User:Starry Hawk/SigJun 27, 2012; 00:17am
Paleh Send help 00:23, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
In Starry's defense, she was stating her opinion of the topic, which I have seen lots of users do. I don't think it was right for Starry to be scolded at for expressing her feelings. RowanOnly One Can Judge... 00:13, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
Though Cloudy and I don't always get along, I know in the end her idea is always better for the wiki. She is a great chat mod and always does her duty.--.Boos Dinosaurs on a Spaceship! 00:15, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
You know Starry...It's my opinion; but I disagree. Cloudy's an amazing chatmod; and a user, in general too. I respect her. I've seen how...stressful it has been for her to put up with users attacking her, harassing her, and so on. And I don't respect her out of fear. I respect her as a very nice user; a helpful one. When I was newer, Cloudy always had faith in me and my goals to help the wiki; when I had no help myself... That's Cloudy. A very, very faithful user who believes in users. Yes; she warned me for things when I started on the wiki, but that was because I was violating something. She does not warn users out of hate; but out of respect of the rules. Though I may have not been her friend at first, she was still always nice to me and had faith in my actions. More faith then I ever did. And I owe that to her... Is that way she was granted the rights of being chatmod? I think so... Not just because she's a "senior member" of the wiki. There. That's my explanation... I only need to point out that, as I am too exhausted to debate so much. Stoneclaw 00:19, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
I have seen the sense in Stoney's comment. I did not realize that Skye was looking out for the best interest of the Wiki when she warned users of rule violations. I have decided to withdraw this debate and correct my wrongs as I receive my footing once more in the Wiki. User:Starry Hawk/SigJun 27, 2012; 00:31am
That's a very responsible thing to do, Starry. But, thank you for being honest; though you may have decided that you were wrong to put up a VoNC, you took the risk to be honest when you thought something was wrong, something that many don't have the courage to do (sometimes myself, but I'm practising improving, I guess...).