RE:Tweak Week

When it comes to Tweak Week I think it's counterproductive to be doing useless nitpicking when there are several new books worth of characters that need art. I understand the need for tweak week, as new information comes apparently and the suchlike. But I'm disinclined to agree with basically shutting the whole project down. I think instead of "Tweek Week" there should be an ongoing tweaks process (IE: An addition section for tweaks approvals, working on say... 5 or 10 tweak projects at once.). I also think that the criteria for tweaks should be improved, so that it's more than nitpicking. Correcting eye colors, adding missing torn ears, etc should be tweaks. But any situation that requires a full redo should be treated a new art, rather than a tweak.

And, as a sidenote ;) I think the various talk page sections might be better as sub-pages to keep things a little better sorted and less complicated for those who just want to use the "Add topic" button.

 Kitsufox  Den/CoSC 23:32, August 14, 2011 (UTC)


Hey Iceheart.

I do will agree about the tweaking section so long as it isn't in the same page because I think that would be too confusing and cluttered. Subpages sound good. So, we'd have one for regular chararts as well as chararts that need total make-overs, and one for tweaks. Where would join requests and etc. go? Also, do you know how much long TW is going to last? Did Darkhallows say to the end of August or or we going to end it when she gets back? Another thing that has been bouncing around in my head is that if we have a permanent tweaking section, that'll be a lot of work for the leads to keep track of. I guess I propose that we wait until we have more warriors and some more skilled apprentices to open that. Maybe after The Forgotten Warrior comes out and most of the chararts are done, so the project settles down a bit. Or maybe before hand, depending on how fast we get all of Crookedstar's Promise and The Rescue characters done. I just don't think that it would be a good idea to add it in right away because the change will be huge as well as the hussle and bustle of all the chararts that need to be done. Thoughts? 03:08, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Inactive Apprentices

Hey Iceheart.

I think it's time to remove some of the inactive apprentices. A list that I've keeping of them are: Amberfire2, ANX219, Applestorm, Canyonsong, Dovewing145 (maybe), Echostar229, Feathertail Millie, Kittycat79, Oakstar (maybe), Paulmer (maybe), Poppypelt4, Sandstormrocks32 (I'd like to see some more activity on her part), Willowwhisper.

What do you think? Nightflower also said she was leaving the wiki, so, she should be removed too. I hate to see her go. ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 05:13, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re: PCA Member Box

Hi Iceheart. Indeed, there was some broken code in the PCA userbox, I have fixed it now. Thanks for bringing my attention to it! Kind regards, Helixtalk 09:39, August 15, 2011 (UTC)


I know you just moved everything over and such, but I'm a tad bit confused. Do you mean we can only have one piece of art to do and have to choose between normal and tweak, or we can have one tweak and one normal? Iveh Yo! 20:00, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Tweak Week

Hey Iceheart! I have a question; if I want to tweak something after my chararts are approved, do I have to still put it on the nomination page first, or do I just put it up on the Tweak Week page? Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 15:54, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. :) Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 19:18, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


Dappletail, Rosetail's kit image, and Adderfang's deputy image need to be archrived. Get to it whenever you have the time^^ Maple♥poolMischief brewing 17:12, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar's Queen image, poppyfrost's warrior image and Queen image, Sasha's kittypet image, Squrrielflight's warrior image, and Cloudy Sun's elder image need to be approved, all of those images went more than a day w/o comments, get to it when you have the time :) Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

TW Nomination Page

Hey, Icy.

If we're gonna have a permanent tweaking section, should we create and archive for the tweaked chararts that were already done? And should we continue to add more chararts?

P.S. Would you be so kind as to bombard Storm and Cloudy Sun with comments? I'm hoping to get my paws on Willowbreeze's warrior charart and Redstar. ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 23:22, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Umm (about Tweaking)

I thought you said after we got our tweaking projects done, we had to choose between one tweak project or one charart? I saw that Mistystar just reserved more, and she has Mist (Lo) reserved for normal art. Iveh Yo! 19:46, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Alright. I mean, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to help people follow the project's new rules. Iveh Yo! 19:48, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

R-really? Gee, thanks! I just follow the rules and try to help others follow them, I've just always been that way. I thought everyone did though, tbh Iveh Yo! 19:53, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it is kind of hard to keep track of it all, but too, if people don't understand (like I didn't understand at first) that's why I asked. By the way, do you know why Darkhallows isn't on here much? Iveh Yo! 20:00, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

You should join This Wiki. It's called living on our own wiki, A Wiki where you can Roleplay warriors, write fanfics, and make comments on Fanpages, pages about cats from the real series. If you need any help, you can join Project Help as an apprentice, so warriors, Sr. warriors, the deputy, and the leader, me, can answer any questions you post on the talk page. You can also join Project charart and Project Fanpage. Project Charart is makes chararts for Fanpages and Project Fanpage makes Fanpages and keeps the info on fanpages updated.

If you have any more questions about Living on our own Wiki once you've joined, ask an admin or a senior user. Also, to join a roleplay clan, just ask the leader.Spottedstar42The WWiki vandals Must fall!!! 20:01, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I can most certainly do that for you! There's also a few characters that have a couple of miscolored pixils that I was gonna fix as well, so I can do that while I'm fixing those. Iveh Yo! 15:57, August 19, 2011 (UTC)


Oops, I seriously didn't know that. I'm so sorry! I saw that it said that we weren't supposed to have any more than 1 image up, but I thought we were allowed to reserve more than one, since I noticed that the Tweak Week and REgular Reserving charts both seemed pretty full. Also, I have a question. In CP, on page 143, it was mentioned that all RiverClan cats have thick pelts, therefore saying that all RiverClan cats should be longhaired. Do you think we should tweak all the RiverClan shorthairs, or just keep it the way they are? I know it would take a long time to tweak all of them... Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 23:42, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Subpages

Sorry for the late reply. Personally I like the idea, though I can see that there might be problems. I think we should give it a try. If it doesn't work we can always change it back. Darkhallows Enter the cave? 08:46, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

If you want, you can make the annoucement (I think I spelled that wrong)? I'd happily do it, but someone else would need to split the pages first. I seem to break every peice of coding I touch xD. As for a single tutorial, I'm not sure... there are so many differant methods for charart. Actually I was originally the one who suggested tutorials, and Bramble had turned it down because there were too many different methods. What about hosting them on another site (dA, PhotoBucket), and just having links to them? That wouldn't take up any space on the wiki. Darkhallows Enter the cave? 02:18, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I was just wondering if you would like to join Warrior Clan Fanfiction wiki. It is a fanfiction wiki were you can write fanfiction, roleplay, create your cat/clan, or just chat with friends. here is the link if you are interested:

Spottedpelt34 20:50, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and did all that I could find, I also changed some of the brown cats who had insanely bright noses, and some of the queens were cross-eyed, so I fixed them. I could also fix some of them who need minor tweaks, if you wanted me to, since a lot of images needing tweaking are just very minor. Iveh Yo! 20:51, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Iceheart! Ok so I'm a bit confuzzled about RiverClan chararts. I always thought they were suppose to be long haired because on the RiverClan article, it says that all RiverClan cats are long haired and sleek. So what would you consider them to be? Thanks! :D Atelda insert vague subtext here 03:08, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Of course! Wait, isn't it already there?... Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 17:39, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


Of course I'll help, but I'm kind of confused. Did you mean the Archive 51? I think its there already...did you want me to add anything to it for you? Also, some users have one charart up for approval, and one tweaked, that were only recently started, after the subpage already was created. Are we allowed to do that? Just wondering... Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 17:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Its fine. :D Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 17:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! =) Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 18:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


You're welcome, and alright, I understand.

I hope I can get my picture either finished or near finished when I go on my vacation on Wednesday since I'll be gone until next Tuesday Iveh Yo! 18:33, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


Hi! I know you told me that we weren't supposed to reserve anything for TW after 6/16, but I noticed that Moonleaf and Paleclaw seem to have reserved some later. So, is that wrong, or are we allowed to reserve things, as long as we don't do them for TW? Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 18:43, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Just checking. :) Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 19:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

About Mousefur's Alt Warrior

Can we come to an agreement on this? Mousefur took me way to darn long to let it get declined. Is there something that can be done so I can keep it up? I'm really proud of that image, considering that's the first tabby I've really taken my time on. I don't want it to get declined and then someone else to mess it up. Would I have to withdraw both Stormfur and Redstar to keep it up, or just one of them? Jayce  ( ) 23:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then I'm withdrawing Stormfur. I think one image for approval, and the other for tweaking is a good thing, actually. It makes sense, and we can get multiple things done at once. Jayce  ( ) 23:59, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with that. I remember seeing multiple images done by the same users when Bramble was leader, long ago. I think it should be we can have two, one for tweaking and one for approval...but only if you can handle it. If not, then don't do it. It's as simple as that...although not as simple for people to understand. >.> Jayce  ( ) 00:04, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


Right. Sorry, Iceheart. I think all the mountain air's gone to my head. Thanks for the reminder.

I also had an idea for the tutorial thing. Maybe all the warriors and SW can just make one huge tutorial rather than having a bunch of different tutorials that take up space. What do you think? ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage

PS Tell Wildheart I say hi and I'm still hoping that she'll come back. I'd love to nominate her for SW.

I like that. Maybe an Extra space where maybe Darkhallows could post a tutorial about the fuzzy shading. Someone needs to the show how to make patchy fur, twisted feet, short tail, etc. Whoever did Cinderpelt's charart should probably do twisted feet because I think that looks great. We also might need an eye chart. ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 01:52, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


I've been seeing some ideas floating around about one giant super-tutorial. If that happens, I only have one thing I need to ask: could this guide I made be included?
Tabby patterns
I worked really hard to make a guide for realistic tabbies (don't get me started on triangle tabbies). If not, I understand, but I think this would really help some new apprentices (heck, they could even copy my blank and color over it) Iveh Yo! 02:47, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentice Rank

Hey Iceheart.

Me and Cloudy have noticed that a lot of the kits join, go inactive, a month goes around, and they come and badger the leads to make them an apprentice. I was thinking that leads would have the power to give and deny the right to an apprentice rank. Cloudy just agreed. What do you think. I think out of all the recent kits only Shellheart and BlueOrca have really earned their apprentice rank. What do you think? I'm also gonna run this by Darkhallows. ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 05:03, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. So, the verdict is to completely scrap the kit rank? ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 03:14, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


Well, I just deleted 130 images yesterday, taking me nearly 2 hours, so hopefully, it will be improved, and the uploading problems will be fixed. If you can, mark more images for deletion, and I'll delete those too. I don't think normal users are allowed to delete things, but if you really want me to, I can ask Moonflight and decide if we should or shouldn't allow normal users to. Its true that there is a lot of clutter on the TW nominations page, and it can be hard to find images on there that aren't crossed out, so I think you should just go ahead and delete them. :D It doesn't say anywhere in the policies that you can't. ;) Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 15:52, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, great! Btw, the Kit System Vote ends today. =) Also, can you do me a favor and comment on Mist's charart? So far, I've had 3 useful comments from two users, and its already been a week since I put it up for approval. Sorry for the impatience. xD Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 16:25, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


Alright, I'm really glad! I know some of them can't be used (such as ticked, unless we have an Abysinnian kittypet) but I know people sometimes have a hard time with tabbies. I've already had someone use it :) Iveh Yo! 16:23, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, you're psychic! :P Thanks so much! Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 16:28, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Charart Page

Hey whenever I try to edit the Charart for approval page, it gets messed up and it doesn't show what I posted! Can you help me? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 16:59, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it, no worries. :) Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 17:03, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 18:45, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, ok, I just thought since it was 24 hours until then :/ Iveh Yo! 19:46, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Project news

Hey, Iceheart.

I just nominated Cloudy for SW. Could you please put a message on the Project news board? Also, would you do me the favor of bombarding Willowbreeze and Shredtail of comments? ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 02:54, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hello Iceheart. I just had a quick question. I was on your siggie tutorial, and I copied one of the codes and pasted into the box in my preferences, and only part of the code showed up. Do you know why this is? This has happened to me before, and I don't know what's wrong. ShadewingMischief Managed... 14:30, August 24, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Oh wait, nevermind I figured it out. Sorry to bother you Iceheart. :) User:Shadewing/Sig 18:49, August 24, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Declined Image

Hi Iceheart,

I saw that you declined Whitefang's apprentice image, that I was working on. I was just wondering because in the guidelines it says this: 'Discussions and declined/approved sections should be subtracted from the total section number to provide how many image sections are up for approval.' Oakheart's apprentice image has been declined due to lack of work therefore before I posted there were only 34 images up for approval. So, is it alright for me to repost Whitefang or do I need to wait until Oakheart is archived?

Best Regards

User:XXXSpecklestreamXXX/Sig 17:14, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. User:XXXSpecklestreamXXX/Sig 21:47, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hello, My name is Acornfur and i have been making alot of chracter art. I would like to join the PCA because i would like to post some charats up for approval. i just need some info on how to join if you could leave it on my talk page iwould love that.

Thank You


i did not see anywere to leave a message


Hey Iceheart! I know the Kit system was taken away, but on the Guidelines for PCA, it still says that the Kit system exists. Are regular warriors allowed to edit that, or should you just delete it? Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 23:44, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re:SW Vote

Erm...well, I know I haven't been your favorite person. XD But, you are a lead, after all. I don't like arguing with leads, because it makes me look really bad...of course, it would be the same for any other person. *laughs* I'm actually impressed that we're not biting each other's heads off about the Leafpool issue. Jayce  ( ) 21:06, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Queen Guidelines

Sure, they're in archive 47. And I still stand by my suggested guidelines for the queen charart. ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 21:23, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

No, it's fine. But should Fallowtail have her queen charart or her warrior charart? ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 00:40, August 29, 2011 (UTC)


Yeah, I can, just give me time, please ^^ Busy now that school started, I may do it tomaz when I have time. Okay? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 23:47, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hi - Read Below


I'm new to this website and was wondering if you could show me a little more of what to do :(

Thanks if you can, it's fine if you can't.

Oh my gosh I'm so sorry! I didn't mean to delete your edit. Ivyheart =P 01:42, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Iceheart! I know you're supposed to keep the PCA news thing updated, and I nominated dapplecloud for warrior status, so can you add that to the PCA page? :3 Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 22:28, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hai Iceheartr. How do you create ur aweseome chararts? Pixlr?Storm is ComingMoonstrikeThe moon is shining 21:46, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


sorry Iceheart. I won't do it again. But I was trying to help. Sorry again. ☮OwlXGlitter☮..4EVERThe Peace is Perfect☯ 23:57, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


Hey, Iceheart. :D Piper (K) has gone through over 24 hours of CBA, so, it should be archived...some people were complaining about not having space on the talk page. Just a reminder. xD Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 00:39, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! ;D Btw, when you archived Sunstrike, you wrote 24 hours instead of 48 hours. :P Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 00:44, September 3, 2011 (UTC)


I know that, I was about to correct it but my computer was yanked from me right away :/ Sorry about that. Appledash the light of honor 23:49, September 3, 2011 (UTC)


Hey, Iceheart. I noticed you had put my SW nomination in with the regular warriors... I moved it to where the rest of the SW votes are. Is that okay? I put what I had seen on the other nominations above mine, so, I hope you're not mad... I just didn't think it was in the right spot. Sorry if I'm treading where I don't belong. Jayce  ( ) 06:56, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Iceheart, I nominated Shelly to be a WArrior in the PCA, and I thought it'd be good to message you so you knew to add it to the news. So.... yeah. XD Just letting you know. :P ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 08:18, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Charart and Siggie request :)

Hi, I can you do a charart for me? Check my profile for my charries info. It's Moonlight :) Thanx oh! And can you make me a siggie too? It says: Moony, your dreamy cotton candy ;D and its suppost to be like pink with blue around it. THanxxxxLight to the night sing the song of life 13:18, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


Ok i'll just write down the request XP

Name: Moonlight

Gender: She-Cat

Rank: Medicine Cat

Description: Moonlight is a brown she-cat with gray eyes and a torn ear. (thats pretty much it XP )

Moony the Magic Cupcake 18:07, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hi again ;) would you mind archiving Cloud's withdrawn elder image? I just need it withdrawn so I can continue to do Sandypaw's apprentice image. Thanks, MoonlightBeauty of the sea! 18:28, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


Hey, Icy!

Can you re-upload your file of Beetlewhisker's warrior charart? The file history takes me to the distorted shorthaired version and that's what's showing up on his page. When I re-uploaded, it fixed Brightheart, Brightsky, and Lightningpelt. ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 00:33, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

24 or 48 hours?

Hey, Iceheart!

For the tweak page, are we using 24 or 48 hours to approve a charart, because I've see both. Personally, I think we should just stick with 24, it makes things easier and it'll help the chararts get done faster. What do you think? ScarletwindFairy Tail Mage 00:36, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Little signature question...

I just nearly redid my signature (keeping the Ivystripe part the same) and I was using both yours and Insane's tutorial, but for some odd reason, the date and time come up in the box that happens when you put a space at the beginning of a sentence, I think. I don't remember putting unneeded spaces in my signature. Do you know what's wrong, or could you possibly take a look at it?

I feel really stupid right now, because I'm good at coding and figuring things out, but this just baffles me! Iveh Yo! 19:24, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, well, let me mess around with it a bit. Do you think I should change them all to just font tags, or are the spn ones better? Iveh Yo! 23:48, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I made it all into span, but it's doing the same thing. Iveh Yo! 00:32, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't look like it. Is there anybody else you know who might be able to solve it? If not, I might just revert it to where it's the same old thing that it used to be, because this is very frustrating :/ Iveh Yo! 00:46, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Over the Limit guidelines

Hey, Iceheart. When chararts are added over the limit, but when some of them are archived, is it still declined or can it go up for approval right then? Personally, I think that declined means declined. It'll get the message across better. What do you think? ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 02:52, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Do you want us to keep track? Also, when I see a charart that's over the limit, I'm just going to say declined and archive it right away so there's no room for debate. ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 02:59, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also, have you heard from Darkhallows lately? ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 03:00, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Inactivity time limit

Hey, Iceheart.

How long can a user be inactive before they're removed? Because Darkhallows hasn't edited since August and Frostheart hasn't either. What do you think we should do? I haven't seen Darkhallows around much lately. ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 01:32, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Tell her I say hi. And no, I don't think you're a bad person at all. You've been in the project for a long time. You've served it well. It's only natural that you feel that you should be able to do more. I felt the same way when Night Shine was choosing her deputy. I knew I had a good chance, as did you and Wildheart. That's why I kicked up my edits. I really wanted to be chosen. Personally, I think Night Shine could've made a better choice. I just feel that Mossy was the right one for deputy. I'm not trying to be critical towards Night Shine, she has my full respect. I just don't think Mossy was the best choice for the project. To be perfectly honest, I wish I could do more too. One day, we'll all have had our chances to serve the project with the power we feel we should have. I'll see to that. (Wow, I sound like Tigerstar... O.o). ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 02:14, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


Actually, that's a really good idea! Instead of having all of these different tutorials cluttering up the wiki, one would make a lot of sense. I probably won't help out a lot with it, aside from the technical stuff...but... this really is a good idea. Maybe the images would actually update if we got rid of the extra ones. XD Jayce  ( ) 00:40, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


Could you create one, or tell me your username if you already have one? I would like to open up a chat with all the senior warriors and leads. Appledash the light of honor 00:47, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't think of that. Good idea. Could I meet you and maybe Scarlet there now? I think Skye's coming. Appledash the light of honor 00:50, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Tutorial

Great idea! Yes, please put my tabby lines in there as I worked very hard on them and copy the names for the types below it. I also have a changing pelt length image, and you could add that too. I was planning on doing another from long to short but also with markings so if anybody wants to tweak an image but doesn't want to change the markings, I can show them how.

Is it up now? If so, I could suggest else I think you'd need to add. I'm looking forward to this! Iveh Yo! 01:53, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok! Also, do you think I should post a hodgepodge on how I do cats with really weird descriptions (such as like I did with Running Horse, as well as Crookedstar's jaw) and how I do scars? I know I don't really need to do one on torn ears because that is easy, but I think it should be noted they should use a hard-edge eraser as that eliminates waste, and all the ones I've seen don't call for that. It's just a suggestion :P Oh, by the way, I think you were right to go ahead and take over PCA as you pretty much have anyway :P Iveh Yo! 02:00, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join the charart project? Tabbeh 04:13, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Repeated CBA

Which archives were they in? I looking for an example first. ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 23:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Appledash the light of honor 23:53, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe so, I can see some sense in that as some users tend to purposefully interrupt CBAs. For now, I'll say no, but since chararts are archived right away anyway, not many users would be the wiser. ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 00:24, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. =) Jayce  ( ) 00:40, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


Hi I'm new to PCA and i have made an example charart. Here it is give me fee
dback: Thanks!

☺Brackenfur66☺ 19:48, September 13, 2011 (UTC)Brackenfur66☺Brackenfur66☺ 19:48, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


Congrats, new PCA leader! I always knew you'd be leader someday. :D Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 22:28, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I have a question...

If your a project charart apprentice, can you post charart? Thx!!!

{{SUBST:User:Cloudclaw1/sig1}} 23:09, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

May I join the charart group?

Hi! I'm new. However I'm not new at making chararts! I use them on my computer on my stories all the time. XD I only use them in my warriors stories that I have saved on my computer's writing program, so you don't need to worry about me posting them elsewhere. XD Anyways, I would love to join and do some charart with you guys! :) here is an example. It's my own charry. :D Tabbeh 23:22, September 12, 2011 (UTC)Tabbeh


Can you read what I said on the discussion for charart please? It's a suggestion for Hoenypaw and Sandypaw. Silverhmm 23:57, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

How does my signature not follow the policy rules? I read them. Ugh, sorry if I'm seeming rude, it's a certain time of the month for me and it makes me get angry. Silverhmm 00:13, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


Okay, thanks for telling me. I honestly couldn't see it, I wasn't just trying to be snappy. Shelly For a limited time only 01:27, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Are you certain? I've gotten the general feeling of dislike from you ever since you and I argued about the queen rule. I'm not sure why, I have no problem with you personally. But it seems like each comment you've directed towards me has had an undertone of general distaste, which is why I seemed snappy before, as I've grown tired of it and I'm not really looking forward to trying to help the project when the leader seems against me at every turn. I'd really like to clear the air over this, if that's alright. I realize I argue a lot, but I only do it when I believe something will benefit the project, like revising the queen rule to be clearer. Can we please try this again, since we're both going to be working in this project together? I have no intention of quitting it, as I believe this to be a skill I can use to help the wiki best. Shelly For a limited time only 01:49, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

We're cool. And sometimes the smallest amount of words can be the most effective.

Just please know that I will argue my point when I think what I'm trying to do will benefit the project. I only have the projects well-being at heart, as I'm sure you do. Just don't take it personally, please. Shelly For a limited time only 01:58, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome. Now, in the spirit of getting over things, would you like a speedpaint? See my profile for examples. I can do your favorite warrior or an original character. Shelly For a limited time only 16:30, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


Lol, thanks! It was like a coding nightmare. And congrats on being leader! :D Atelda insert vague subtext here 02:50, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure it'll last long. Darkhallows was bound to be suprised, but she'll get over it with time. You'll make a great leader! Plus you have Scarletwind as deputy and the many SWs to back you up. Atelda insert vague subtext here 03:10, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Just thought I should ask

Is it really necessary for Iceheart to keep redoing tweaked images? She's making more work for us, because now all of Firestar's images are going to have to be redone, when all she had to do is give him a pale underbelly and tear his ear. I thought you warned us against that. This is making more work for us. Iveh Yo! 15:45, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, yeah xD And well, tbh, I really liked how his image looked, but I'm not a lead and cannot make that call. I guess I'll try doing his kippypet then. It's just, I didn't know, and it sort of frustrates me because then, by that logic, anybody could redo any image they wanted to and fudge a reason why. But if you guys came to a consensus, then alright. I didn't mean to sound a little miffed because I didn't know. Iveh Yo! 00:40, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Tabbeh again, with a question...

Could I do Skyheart as an apprentice? XD for some reason my computer won't let me post on the project character art talk page. Tabbeh 20:34, September 13, 2011 (UTC)Tabbeh


I know, right? xD But Nightshine didn't...and you probably won't, either. About the SW nomination...To tell the truth, I really, really want my vote to pass, but now that Splashpelt has been nominated...I doubt I have any chance left. Almost all of the leads support her, and barely any support me...I understand your vote against me, but some of the others, not so much. Most of them said that I need to have more experience, but I've been in PCA for 7 months, a warrior for 4, am an admin, a lead in 2 other projects, and have completed 23 chararts, with 2 up for approval. So, I know I'm irrational, but I'm just not going to vote on Splashpelt's nomination, because I don't want to be biased... Also, you said my chararts need more vote. What do you think I should work on? Shading? Earpink? Just wondering... Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 21:56, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. :D And, the rule about having more than half of the leads agree was taken away, right? Because if its still there, then I lose. xD Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 22:41, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thank goodness. xD You probably would have become a SW anyway, since there wasn't enough active leads at the time. :P Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 22:44, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! =) Congrats, too, since Darkhallows decided to let you remain leader. :D Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 23:02, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

You'll do wonderful! After all, you basically have been taking care of all the votes, TW, and everything, anyway. To most of the users, you've been the leader for a long time already, and as you can tell, people are always asking you about PCA issues, even though Darkhallows was leader. ;D Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 23:05, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Mothwing-yesh XD it's me again

I've noticed Mothwing as a warrior doesn't look like the rest of her chararts. Mothwing as a warrior is deeply shaded in the front, and there is no mottle to her pelt. All she is a golden tabby, however she's a mottled golden tabby. XD ( I hate talking all seriously). But, seriously, I was wondering if I could tweak it a bit? to make it mottled? Tabbeh 21:00, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I just wanted to kindly ask that Screech's to-be image be archived. It's been nearly 48 hours, and we have a lot of images to tweak, and I'd like to do something else =) Whenever you can get to it is fine. And by the way, I apologized to Icestorm. I'm glad everything is alright now. Iveh Yo! 23:38, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nvm xD Iveh Yo! 23:44, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. I just don't want to make 'enemies', especially if I am in the wrong or misjudged the situation. Things go a lot more smoother if every member can get along, I understand the need for that. Iveh Yo! 00:09, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re; User Page

No, I don't need help :) Thanks for the offer though! ^^ SnowyXPerry = Serry! 00:06, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Iceheart, how did you add your dapples on Poppyfrost? Appledash the light of honor 00:25, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

And for the tutorial, should we add a tweaking section? If so, who will do it? I think you should, but if it's too much work, no xD Appledash the light of honor 01:02, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Tools

You mean, take a snapshop of the blur tool, paintbrush, etc.? You also think we should include Dark in the tutorial. I feel kinda bad that I messed up on the date when she said she's be back on. ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 01:32, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Can I ask you something?

I saw your work and that from the others, and I thought; I will try that too!

So I maked some and showed them to my friends on the internet.

Now I read I am not allowed to use the blanks for another site... oops... If you want me to stop making these and take them from the internet, I can do that!

I am sorry...


I want to join the PCA

Joining Request

I want to join the PCA.User:Badgerfur/Sig 21:57, September 15, 2011 (UTC)BadgerfurUser:Badgerfur/Sig 21:57, September 15, 2011 (UTC)


Hi Iceheart! So, so sorry for my impatience, but my charart went through 36 hours without comments, and then was commented on, so I fixed the comment. I asked for it to be archived, but Icestorm said that if it wasn't ready, even after 24 hours, it still couldn't be archived. I fixed her comments, too, so, do you think I have to wait another 24 hours, or will it be archived? Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 23:57, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Trade Ya!

Hey, Icestar! ;)

No one's commented on Sasha for a while, would you mind bombarding? I'll do the same to Gorsetail once I finish history. ;P ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 00:57, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Freaks out O.o

I'll be gone from Wednesday until friday! I guess I could inform Cloudy and Icy that we'll be gone. Sound alright? ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 00:08, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going up to Wisconsin with my class for Sophomore Retreat. I think it'll be more like camping with cabins, showers, etc. What about you, Icestar? ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 00:24, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Character Request

Re:SW Nominations

Idk. How are redone chararts any easier? Well, yes, I'll admit that they take less time, but they still require the layers, shading, blurring, etc. of any other charart. But another thing, chararts that aren't originally theirs (ones that they took over, unless they made their own) shouldn't count. ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 19:58, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry bout that. I had nothing else to do & felt like helping. Wont do it again --Bloo!yo 02:03, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then. I still think that redone chararts should count, the only real reason that we only do the 24 hours time limit is because these are all warriors who have done chararts before and they know what they're doing. But I'll definitely so no to taken-over chararts, same goes for apprentice to warrior requirement, I think. ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 02:15, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Icy. But I'm going by the fact that the same amount of work goes into them, just the greater base is achieved quicker and there are less users to go after the nit-picky details. Anyway, would you like me to bombard Gorsetail for you? ;) ScarletwindGo Beyond Plus Ultra!! 02:20, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sig Request

Can you make me a sig please? I have no idea how to get rid of the table box thing.

Thank you! Silverhmm 12:22, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

No need to change <3 I love it, thank you so much! Silverhmm 20:50, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Charat Request


Uh, may I ask what's wrong with it?MoonlightBeauty of the sea! 12:35, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerstar's Alt

Do you have any tips on making the texture on highlights, like the highlights on Tigerstar's alt? They look super cool. Ivyheart =P 23:56, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that! Thanks for adding it to the rules, it will help a lot of people. ;D Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 01:24, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

When you get this message

When you get this message, I need to discuss something with you in private. I fear retribution so I don't want it to be traced on your talk page. Iveh Yo! 02:17, September 23, 2011 (UTC)</strike>

Nevermind, I kind of forgot and if I did then it wasn't important anyway Iveh Yo! 03:29, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, that was an epic way to describe it :D I've always wanted to know how to give cats texture like that. :) Ivyheart =P 18:51, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Profile

Not at all, go ahead! :) Atelda insert vague subtext here 21:47, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I know, I'm sorry xD Also Wildy is back so I need to change that. By the way, what do you think about Ashfur? Should he have stripes? (if you've already commented I'm sorry xD But nobody can seem to agree and I'm a little frustrated) Iveh Yo! 22:05, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. glad you like them! :D Atelda insert vague subtext here 22:07, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, good, because I like it better that way. I'm gonna go ahead and redo it so the stripes have their own layer. Thank you =) Iveh Yo! 22:20, September 24, 2011 (UTC)


I use Paint Tool SAI, and yes, I use Windows 7. Shelly For a limited time only 22:32, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Queen Vote

Would it be alright with you if I wote up a voting forum proposing the rule to be changed to encompass all pregnant cats? I think it may get support, since no one is following the old rule anyway. I know I don't have to ask you, but I thought it would be best to get your input. Shelly For a limited time only 22:57, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

The options would be either change to rule to

"A queen is defined by the project to be any cat to either be seen pregnant/nursing a kit/kits or a cat mentioned as having done so in the past."

or to keep the present rule and actually enforce it. If the votes go towards the latter, I would of course withdraw my Nutmeg charart in good faith, and I believe all other chararts not conforming to the rule would have to be taken down as well... and thats quite a few chararts. Shelly For a limited time only 23:34, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take care of it. I feel better doing this with your support. Shelly For a limited time only 23:37, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

The vote is up here. Shelly For a limited time only 23:55, September 24, 2011 (UTC)


Ok, can I have your email? I'll give you mine (it's really weird xD) so you know who it's from. I just think there's a few things that would better be discussed NOT on the Wiki xD Iveh Yo! 15:27, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Nooo go ahead xD I say the "f" word every other word when I'm the most mad. Wait, since it's hotmail, do you use the messenger system? I have to use meebo but if that'd be easier, :) Iveh Yo! 16:27, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

With Meebo I can still use MSN, my MSN is kinda wonky but I'd still be talking to you as normal, it doesn't take any extra effort on your part. Iveh Yo! 16:30, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re:PCA talk page

I'm sorry i was just eraseing a comment i wrote on and approval charart because it was CBAed. I'm sorry. Violetpelt☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 20:26, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


Sorry, I was unclear. It did need to be longhaired, yes. But while I thought the stripes were odd, they were okay. That's what I meant. ☾Mint☽Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:33, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. ☾Mint☽Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:40, September 25, 2011 (UTC)


Okay, thanks! You've helped me a lot already, but if I have any more questions, of course I'll ask. :D Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 21:51, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


not to sound naggy but the ONestar kit image had passed the time......I just want the page to clear up a little. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 22:00, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


Pine's rouge image needs to be archvirved. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 22:38, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Can i join Project Charart? Fallowpounce 03:17, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Charart Request

Charart Request

Fallowpounce 20:45, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Signiture Request

Please and Thank you :DFallowpounce 21:01, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

PCA Question

Hi I've got a question for Project Charart. How long can an image for approval be for approval for without going through CBA, or getting Approved, Declined or Withdrawn? OwlXGlitter4LIFE.. The colors of fall 00:21, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

If it hasn't already been done by the time you get this, do you think that you could archive Ashfur's image? I know it says to wait 48 hours but most of the talk yesterday was about one flipping pixil. Lol xD Thanks in advance. Iveh Yo! 02:24, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Iceheart. I would like to become an apprentice of Project Charater Art. I learn quikly and I think I have what it takes to become a perfessional Charart Creator. Storm is ComingMoonstrikeThe moon is shining 22:58, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

And does it count if you sign your name on the vacation list? Or does the charart they have up for approval just get archived itself? OwlXGlitter4LIFE.. The colors of fall 00:17, October 2, 2011 (UTC)


Hi Iceheart,

I know we haven't quite met yet but I'm Dappleheart. I have a request for you to do...Do you think possibly you could make Original Charart Templates for my Wikia [1] ? That would be great. Our current ones are...not that good....[2] If you could that could be great!


Dappleheart 00:39, October 2, 2011 (UTC)


Can't go on at 5:00. I'm at Wiches Wood. (Yeah, screw you all. x3) Is it possible for us to get on now? Appledash the light of honor 18:38, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ah. I'll have to get an idea of what time I'll get of the computer. So. Er. I'll ask. Appledash the light of honor 18:42, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeha, I can get on at 5:00, but I'd leave at 5:30. Appledash the light of honor 18:42, October 2, 2011 (UTC)


Since the laptop I'm using is one I bought myself, I can get on whenever you need me to be. I haven't been doing much of anything recently anyways. Jayce  ( ) 18:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm already on. I figured we'd need to settle this whole issue sooner rather then later. Jayce  ( ) 23:46, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Tweak Page

Sure. I think that's 7:00 for me. Computer's getting a bit long in years and is acting kinda screwy but I think I have my problems fixed for the most (I hope I hope...) Any other leads coming? -ScarletwindLisanna 20:15, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm on. Appledash the light of honor 21:10, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Might be a tad late. I'll be called for dinner any moment now. -ScarletwindLisanna 23:45, October 2, 2011 (UTC)


Can I talk to you again on MSN? I feel kind of silly for asking but you sound like you're really busy and I figured it'd be polite. It's another PCA thing. AutumnstarTriumph over tragedy 00:14, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

I heard you talked - what happened? Appledash the light of honor 11:28, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, which day? Its around 6 for me, so I can only do it on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 21:56, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Charart Request - Snowdazzle

Hello! Can you make me a charart? I'm gonna replace mine with the new one.

Thank you! ^^ SnowyXPerry = Serry! 00:00, October 4, 2011 (UTC)


"The question should be, what can I do for you?" the former ShadowClan leader replied. He paced forward into the center of the clearing, and the cat behind him followed. As the brown tabby emerged into the light, Ivypool drew in a horrified breath.

Iceheart, get your facts correct, and learn how to read. It's plain as day that the brown tabby cat is Blossomfall, not Brokenstar. If you read SotM at all, you would notice this. Brokenstar was already in the clearing when Blossomfall emerged from the shadows. Her alt warrior STAYS. Jayce  ( ) 19:41, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hi i am using your'e lineart from Tutorial Shading.png and was wondering if i could post it on deviantART.

I will give you full credit. 02:58, October 5, 2011 (UTC)Bluestar2001

Well, maybe if you would stop and think before you do things, the messages you get from me wouldn't be so rude. Iceheart, being leader doesn't mean you're always right. I know that better then anyone on this wiki. Seriously. Jayce  ( ) 22:41, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I know I shouldn't be butting in, but I agree with her. Appledash the light of honor 22:44, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

The thing is, Blossomfall was described as a brown tabby. The paragraph I stated is straight from the book. I don't care who declined it in the past. They were wrong. Jayce  ( ) 22:45, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I am. I don't care. Cloudskye's RIGHT. Can you be kind and tell me who exactly it is? Appledash the light of honor 22:46, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'll have a fit with you, because you're the one that declined it. One thing about me, and everyone else knows it, when I see something I know isn't right, I'm going to speak my mind. Multiple people agree with me. Jayce  ( ) 22:48, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Manners of a two-year old? Excuse me? If anything, you're acting like the two year old. Pff. Jayce  ( ) 22:55, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

I know what you were implying. Trust me. Sorry for snapping, but I didn't think it was right. Once again, my attitude gets the better of me. When you're stuck in a hotel for almost a month, tempers run short. Jayce  ( ) 22:58, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ouch. 3 out of 4. That sucks. Anyways, you can use to reach me. That's my default email, and also my MSN. Jayce  ( ) 23:05, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentice Blanks

Are you going to be posting the new blanks to the approval page for critique? Just curious, I'd seen that that had been done in the past with the first blanks. Shelly For a limited time only 03:33, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Signature

As a tip for the future, if you ask someone to fix a page, it's a good idea to provide them with a link so that they can acctually find it (you're not storeing your sig under any title that I consider "customary"). The thing that causes the problem you're having is using that bloddy categories box when you add your categories. Do them by hand into the source code view, rather than the ruddy little box in the sidebar and things will work properly. Anything you put in that box will be entered after your content, a hard carriage return (hitting of the enter key) down, creating that gap that troubles so many people.


Me n' Cloudy are on the IRC talking about rule changes. Feel free to join us. -ScarletwindLisanna 02:40, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

yup. -ScarletwindLisanna 02:42, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

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