No, I didn't. And agreed, I think we need to have a lead IRC meeting about which chararts can and can't be redone. -✧Lisanna✧ 23:08, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Might get called for fresh-kill soon, but I'll be there in un momento, mi amiga! ;) -✧Lisanna✧ 23:36, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Heya, Iceheart. I noticed that^^ and would like to explain myself. ;) The image was listed under tweaking, but it was listed for re-doing the tortie patches. There was some blurred lineart, and blanking the entire image to start from scratch was taking awhile, so that's why I re-did it. If that's not okay, in the future I'll ask beforehand. Rainlegs 23:40, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
YES 00:02 Mon Oct 10
I noticed the conversation between you and Rainlegs, and aren;t we redoing all the apprentices anyway? Does it matter if Sweetpaw's kit is redone? Sky is better than candy 00:05, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Icey. Are you still coming to the IRC, cause I'm currently on and waiting. -✧Lisanna✧ 00:23, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. But I'm not using chararts. I'm working from scratch. It's just one big drawing. 22.214.171.124 21:54, October 10, 2011 (UTC) (shellheart signed out)
be right there -✧Lisanna✧ 22:32, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, but it does not go to my page :) It will work fine though!
What do you think?
I was talking to a buddy and Kestrelflight came up (the image that I have reserved for tweaking) The image needs to have spots like kestrel feathers, but the shading is kind of...strange, some color goes where it's not supposed to, it needs to be mottled, and my friend said the color looked off. I can tweak it if you say no, but I think it's more in need to be redone (the only other image is an mca image and will be redone anyway). I just wanted to ask before I started to work on it. I won't be mad if you say no, I just think it'd be better if I did. Yo! 00:37, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
Um..Hi, Iceheart. :3 This is a really...awkward message, I suppose...But I was chatting with Cloudskye and I was just mentioning to her that I couldn't find any charart to do, since after six months of not doing one, I was pretty eager, and she said you might be able to help me...I'm sorry if I sound a little pushy. :3 Feathermoon. 22:14, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much, and yes please. Feathermoon. 00:31, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch. ^.^ Feathermoon. 00:37, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
Dear Icestorm. I am a new apprentice of the PCA and would like to ask you a question. When you go to 'Characters without chararts' page, do you have to reserve that position? Or can you just put the charart up on the approval page? Thank you, Storm is ComingMoonstrikeThe moon is shining 01:35, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
Hey Icy? I was looking thrgouh some files, and I noticed on Robinwing's queen image, someone (who's not even a member of the PCA) uploaded over it with their own version about a month ago, and I don't see it in any kind of archives or anything, so I don't think it was a tweak. It was never reverted, did it just get missed, or was there a reason it was kept like that? I just wanted to check before I reverted it. Here's the image if you want to check it out. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 03:49, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
I reverted it. That user has done things like that before. I just don't think it was noticed. Sometimes that happens, especially when it's an image that the user thinks they can "improve". —Jayce ( ) 03:54, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
Sure. So long as you'll do that same for Shiningheart. -✧Lisanna✧ 22:40, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
Raggedstar Warrior Image
Hey, Icy. I noticed that the Raggedstar warrior image looked way darker then the other images. Maybe it should be tweaked?
I'm planning on redoing Willowbreeze's chararts, since three of them are mine, but where does it say that she and Silverstream have the same stripes? I looked in Crookedstar's Promise and I didn't see anything.
Another thing I think I should point out is that I'm having a really bad week, so if I come off sounding cranky or rude, I don't mean it. -✧Lisanna✧ 23:24, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Crud... Well, she's next on my list. Hopefully Shiningheart won't take too much longer. -✧Lisanna✧ 23:25, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind going and bombarding Shiningheart? I'll do the same with Leopardstar and Owl Feather. ;) -✧Lisanna✧ 23:28, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Haha. Because my heads so screwed up today, I just noticed that Shiningheart and Owl Feather were on CBA. ;P Thanks! -✧Lisanna✧ 23:32, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Iceheart, I need to talk to you about Icestorm. I love her chararts, I really do, but she's going to far with the tweak page. She's redoing images that aren't even on the tweak list at all, let alone on there for a week, and she hasn't reserved either of the images she currently has up. She's a lead, and she's ignoring those rules she is meant to help enforce. There's something very wrong with that. Shelly For a limited time only 16:25, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
Nevermind, Ice. The project seems to feel strongly that I am wrong to expect this rule to be followed, so I revoke my argument and report. I've been told that leads shouldn't argue against each other, and that asking you to talk to Icestorm is a serious wrong. Sorry for wasting your time. Shelly For a limited time only 17:14, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
Trust me, I know. I have Cloudy, a person I like quite a bit, bullying me and telling me to stop acting like a "mini-lead", telling me I've been too bossy since becoming a warrior just because I want everyone to follow the rules set out. I almost wanted to quit the project after the things she said to me. Shelly For a limited time only 18:47, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
I'm here, but at school working theatre, so I'll be darting on and off. -✧Lisanna✧ 19:14, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about missing that. I got called for my cue and it lasted forever. Can I chat with you at midnight on the wiki clock? -✧Lisanna✧ 20:27, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
I know that. But on the..thing you said that I should come and talk to you! Like to see what's wrong or something... I don't know but you said something about coming to talk to you. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 19:42, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
May I redo Swallowtail (RiverClan)'s elder charart? The stripes need to match the warrior's, and the shading is off. (I was told to ask you...I don't know if I'm doing this right xD) Elorisa 19:45, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
Hey I thought the new rule meant we could reserve two tweaks? Leaf-storm was doing it, and nobody called her out on it, so I figured it was okay. 22:53 Sun Oct 23
Well I think I'll start with the layer problem. :P Do you use GIMP? Cause that's what I use. Anyways, at the end, about getting off the waste, I tried doing that on the layer with the ear pink and eye colour, but it delet's everything else. Sweetflower 00:13, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
hey, why are you declined scourge kit charart? I not redoned it :-( it was only tweaked Leaf-storm,12:05,October 24,2011 (UTC)
Can I have permission to redo Brackenfoot's warrior image? This note on the tweak page mentions that his color needs to change, so I can't easily do that without redoing the image. Shelly For a limited time only 16:22, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
Just something to be aware of
Cloudy told me that Kitsu had caught wind of the huge fight yesterday. I think it might be good for all of us to watch our step for a while. Until everything is forgotten. Just wanted to let you know. -✧Lisanna✧ 03:02, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
Hi Iceheart, I just wanted to apologize for missing the PCA chat meetings. I know I'm a lead, so I'm supposed to go, but I have to go to badminton practice every Friday night at 5:30, and the chats are every other Friday night at 6, for me. Sorry about that. Thanks, ∗ Mistystar ∗ Trust the Fire Within... 00:00, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
lol, creeper. Anyways, I really don't know how it would work, aside from them just being told they're not allowed to edit any PCA pages/upload images for one day. I mean, one of us could probably keep tabs (probably me, since it was my idea) on a word document or something, as to who gets what, and for how long. I also thought of something else. If they edit anything PCA related (during the 24 hour ban), their ban gets extended another 12 hours. It's not long, but nor is it a slap on the wrist. —Jayce ( ) 01:45, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
I do believe I just solved all the fighting. I'll go post it now. And we CAN lock the page, but only on two levels. From annoyn. users and then a sysops lock. =/ —Jayce ( ) 01:51, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Iceheart, I was lurking on Cloud's talk page. And that idea she had about 24 hour bans?
We already have it. The only difference with Cloudskye's idea is the increasing ban time for repeated offenses and the increased range to encompass all offenses.
Ice, why have you guys not enforced that rule before? This would have been sucha help had any of the leads known it existed, which apparently no one did. Look, I supported you yesterday because you seemed genuinely distressed by the fact that you can't enforce the rules as no system of punishment exists and because of my small argument with Icestorm and Cloudskye that lead to me going to you for help, but the system is obviously already in place and none of you apparently read the rules well enough to see the one at the bottom stating that those repeatedly breaking the rules can be banned temporarily or permanently. I'm sorry, but this is rediculous. Shelly For a limited time only 02:00, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
Uhg, sorry. Right after I wrote that I realize I sounded snappy. Look, in short all you need to do is expand on that existing rule a little, simple and clean. Shouldn't be hard to pass. Sorry again for writing a snappy message on your board. Shelly For a limited time only 02:03, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
I thought I should ask, I was asked to do something on Firestar's warrior image that was in his deputy image (which, long story short, I pasted the warrior on top of it). Will I need to re-reserve his deputy image? (it's to change the direction the way the tip of his pale belly points) Yo! 04:46, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
Hi this Sunpelt and I was wondering how you make chararts? Thanks!Sunpelt☼Always Sunny!☼ 14:56, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
Hey Iceheart ^^ I came by to ask your permission, since I don't want to stir up anymore trouble. Is it alright if I redo Fuzz's kittypet? It specifically says the shading needs to be redone, and I can't do that all on the same layer without disturbing anything else. So, this is pretty self explanatory xD Splook sweet creature 01:50, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
==I need a SIGGIE!==
Hi! I've ahd this account for 3 weeks and still don't have a siggie yet. So please make me one and could you tell me how to do it myself?
Color: Blue and purple (the lightest kind that you could see clearly) patterns in the letters
Highlight Color: Black
By the way, could you do some extra words? If you can then please put and star after Sparklestream, and write "The sprit within you" (a little smaller) then put another star after that.
Font: Lucida handwriting
Extra font color: Light green going up to yellow ( switch color every 3-5 letters)
if you could do this then...ThX so MUCH!
Sparklestream 11:02, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Ehm, sorry for bothering you... hmm Im here only for your permission.I want redone Ruby's kittypet char. because the almost whole lineart is blurred..and I redone shadings as well.. Thank you.. Leaf-storm,14:53,October 29,2011 (UTC)
Yeah, you already reserved the queen anyway so she's yours :P But we have to decide on a pelt colour/stripe style. Honestly, I've tried the style you did, and it's... bad. Seriously. oblivionAudience? 02:02, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
Who makes chararts on this wiki? lol, I first went to wildheart7, she told me to go to cloudskye, then cloudskye told me to come to you :P Anyway, cna you make a charart for me?;
Pelt: ginger and black tortiseshell with whtie chest and belly, brown paws.
Scar/others: one long scar down her side, chipped ear
eye color: green
thanks!Zinniakit 07:27, October 31, 2011 (UTC)
Don't stress it, Iceheart. I haven't been on much lately either due to theatre and this stupid history paper I've been having to write. (Once I turn it in, I never wanna hear the word "Athens" again...) -✧Lisanna✧ 00:39, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Iceheart. On the apprentice tutorial, since it says free game for shading, I was wondering if I could take part in it? I have something in mind for it, and I was wondering if I could do it. Thanks, Ivyheart =P 05:01, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
Hello. May I do the white cats section in The apprentice tutorial, it says free game. Also may I do something for shading too? Now I am a warrior in PCA.00:23, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
This is for shading: File:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.shading4.png This is white. White wasn't that good. File:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.chararts.white cats4.png 00:52, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry! here they are! File:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.shading1.png File:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.shading2.png File:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.shading3.pngFile:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.shading4.pngNumber 2 - File:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.chararts.white cats1.png File:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.chararts.white cats2.pngFile:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.chararts.white cats3.pngFile:Stoneclaw33.tutorial.chararts.white cats4.png 01:01, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
How do you make it all one image? 01:06, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
All right! Well, I have the screenshots. Three in total. If I can't upload all three, I could try to merge them together. I'll link you the pic once you decide wheather I shouldn't or should merge all three screenshots. Thanks again, Ivyheart =P 05:42, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, forget the message I said above, I merged it. Here is the image...I put it in a thumbnail because I didn't want to clog your talk page. Anyway, does it look ok? Ivyheart =P 05:52, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, let me know if you're gonna do my siggie or not cuz i already have a siggie...so...mine is number 36 on your list...um...yeah just leave a message. Sparkling brighter than the stars 13:54, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
I have a question about Purdy's images. I'm tweaking them so that they have mottles, but it's proving extremely difficult to tweak them (the stripes are getting in the way). So, can I redo them? User:XXXSpecklestreamXXX/Sig 14:46, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
Actually I've decided to do a diffeent charart so just ignore that message above. User:XXXSpecklestreamXXX/Sig 18:14, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry, I understand XD User:XXXSpecklestreamXXX/Sig 22:01, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
3 New Rules for PCA
Me and Cloudy were chatting together and we though of three new proposals for PCA guidelines.
#When a user takes over a charart, one week is added to the original time limit. They don't get a full month.
#A user must have at least 5 edits a week to be considered active and not to be removed from the project.
#PCA doesn't accept any new members or lets any old member rejoin within 2 weeks of a new book coming out. Since users just show up, try a charart (and usually have it declined) and then go inactive until the next book comes out.
Tell me what you think about these. By the way, I cleaned out all the inactive apprentices and removed Dapple and Elorisa from the warriors section (they're too inactive to stay).
All the best, -✧Lisanna✧ 00:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
Is it okay if I use warrior characart for my signatures on Virtual Warrior World and Warriorfreaks?
Can I please use the characart for the Warriors characters for the Warriors Roleplay sites?
Hi, Iceheart. I accidently put up Beetlewhisker's kit image up for approval, having no idea that you were the OA for his warrior image. I'm sorry about that. I'm just wondering if I can keep it up or you decline it, then put it up. Thanks, SnowyXPerry = Serry! 00:46, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
I know this is a total fail but I want to review this. What are the guidlines in the PCA? I sorta forgot and with that vote thing going on, I wanna make sure I follow. I completly support! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 03:08, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
Mentor and Apprentices
When do you want to talk with all the other leads about pairing mentors and apprentices? I was thinking like friday at midnight on the IRC. But that might be a bit late. You decide. -✧Lisanna✧ 21:54, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
Alright. I'll pass that on the other leads. Also... I am going to sound like such a derp, but how do you put chararts into the approved chararts page? -✧Lisanna✧ 22:05, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
The Approved Charart category -✧Lisanna✧ 22:17, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
Lol. Derp. Thanks Icy! :) Nice blanks by the way ;) -✧Lisanna✧ 22:41, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
Really? You would? Thanks!
I'd like to start by asking a quick side question about the contest. How do I upload a picture right so it apears under my entry, same question for uploading to the approval page.
...Do I get a say in this? I'd really rather my tutorial stay up; I've spent a lot of time and effort on it. I honestly don't see what the problem is with everyone having their own tutorial. oblivionAudience? 02:10, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
I MISS YOU MORE. I have no idea when I'm getting my phone back >.> but when I do, the first thing imma do is text you. Obviously. <3 04:24 Sun Nov 20
I'm sorry....I didnt do it right and didn't get to put my photo :(. I messed up >.<
Great! Now, how do you use highlights? As you can see by my current pic, im not very good T.T. I use GIMP btw.
I'm gonna take one next week. This week's been really kicking my butt with theatre and stuff. Holiday's i'm busy. But I am going to take one. -✧Lisanna✧ 05:50, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
I guess, I'll take kitty next week and I'll do what I can with her. I just don't have the time right now. -✧Lisanna✧ 06:01, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
Sure thing. Be right there -✧Lisanna✧ 03:02, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, do you remember me? I was wondering if I could rejoin Project Character Art (after that 2 week limit, right?) I'm going to be much more active. User:QuailflightTheCat/Sig 04:30, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
Oh by the way: What happened to all the apprentice and medicine cat apprentice art? Are they being with held or something? User:QuailflightTheCat/Sig 08:42, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
No problem. I don't want to cause trouble. XD ~Breezewhisker~ 13:35, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
HA! Sure thing, I'll finish it up by tomorrow. Though I'll havta warn you, I use two programs at the same time, so dont be surprised if a number of apprentices getting confused xD Bloo!yo 03:42, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you take charart requests, and I was wondering if you could make me a simple lineart? Similar to the warrior lineart or the leader lineart (whichever is easier) with the tail (fluffy) around it's paws? I understand if you don't have time. Thanx! SkydragonFlight of dreams... 16:47, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
Come on where? To IRC? Sorry, just got back, kinda not really following. XD If you mean IRC, could you link me pwetty pwease? I never go on there. :P ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 04:57, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
Your Package has Arrived
Yeah, I lied. It was supposed to be finished yesterday, but it got accidently deleted without me saving it. Oh well, Anywhoo, I picked the tabby style out of random, hope that was okay. -Bloo!yo 05:47, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
Wow... I totally forgot about that. If you want, we could break it up into black and white cats and ginger and white. If you wanna do that, I'll take the ginger and white section. But if you wanna keep it together as one piece, someone else can take it. Life's been kicking my butt lately... Exam week is coming up... fun! -✧Lisanna✧ 23:45, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
My suggestion is just doing what I do, and removing the nowiki bullcrap. It keeps defaulting to the category box, and nothing we do can change it. My signature page doesn't have a category, and it works just fine. —Jayce ( ) 02:14, December 2, 2011 (UTC)
Anytime. I won't be around until around from morning until uh... 20 tomorrow on the wiki clock; I gotta work. I'm currently working on another wiki that needs some work, so I might not say too much, but I'll be around. -✧Lisanna✧ 01:34, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good. You ever remember what you wanted to tell me last time? -✧Lisanna✧ 01:53, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
Your Mother's Chest Hair
How come? <3 02:51 Sat Dec 3
Sex? 03:00 Sat Dec 3
I'm always inappropriate. 03:14 Sat Dec 3
Matthew Broderick. Okay. Seriously? I can't even. wtf. I feel ashamed for calling Simba's voice sexy now. 04:20 Sat Dec 3
Re: Lead Meeting
Ok, I'll try to make it. :) Though I think that might be the middle of the night my time, so I'm not sure if I'll be up, but if I am, I'll try. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 05:14, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
I got back early so if you want to start our chat early, just holler, but I have been informed that I have a family reunion and I have to leave at 23 I think. -✧Lisanna✧ 21:04, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
I haven't asked you a question in a while :P. I was wondering- how do you use layers? And changing colors on GIMP? I have to do it on paint first, then copy the image to GIMP >.<. ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes!
17:15, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
Hiya! I am asking for a charart:
Pelt Length: Long
Main Color: White
Markings: Big patches with smaller flecks inside them
Marking colors: Darkish grey, with dark grey flecks
Special: Stump tail (Like A Manx cat's)
Eyes: Dark Blue
If you could make this, it would be a big help! ^.^ Also, I have one question. When I put the infobox template for my cat in, it just says MediaExample.ogg. Do you think you might be able to know why that happens? Thanks! ❄Christmaspaw❄Christmas is almost here! 00:46, December 5, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, where do I begin....
How about, where do I make layers? How can I edit them? How can I delete them?
Hey :D I was just wondering if I could redo Floss' loner image. That shading desperately needs to be redone, and it's really hard to tweak just the shading. If you think it's fine, that's your call. I just thought I'd ask permission from you. -bows down to her almighty leader- oblivionAudience? 01:12, December 6, 2011 (UTC)
==Tweaking the shading tutorial==
Hi Iceheart! I was wondering if I could reserve and make the section for tweaking the shading in the tweak section. I actually already made it. Here it is. I can add any missing information if you want me too. So, may I? :3 Ivyheart =P 02:24, December 6, 2011 (UTC)
I have a charart request Iciclewing 13:39, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
Name: Shaded Willow that sings in Splashes (Shadewillow)
Rank: Prey Hunter
Pelt Length: Long
Pelt Color: Black and Gray
Eye Color: Bright Blue
Extras: Stumpy Tail, Torn Ears, Star on Forehead
I also have a siggie request
It will say: Shadewillow and then the text rises up and says: Shining Light in the Sky and the text will be blue, it will be a dotted darker blue background and the dots will be an even darker blue. Thanks!
==RE: Brightheart (A)==
So sorry about that. I was planning on asking Scarletwind, but I guess it slipped from my mind and I didn't know about how we aren't doing ones that already had an image.. ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 02:42, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
Are we allowed to have two images up for approval at one time now because of the apprentices to be done?00:15, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
Should I reserve it in one of the tweak areas?00:23, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
==Since you made the new apprentice blanks,==
Can i have a sample of the shorthaired apprentice blank? Thanks! The PCA main page dosn't have them up yet. ✤Featherwillow✤ Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 03:30, December 9, 2011 (UTC)