Talk: Charart/Approval Page

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Thornclaw (Alt W) - For Evaluation

Pretty sure I'm allowed to reserve this? Sandy ^{My Talk} 04:35, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, you are! Define the shading a lot more and define the shading depth (add a thinner, darker layer of shading). --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 04:38, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 04:46, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

That's better, but the shading is a little too overblurred on the chest on tail, which makes it lose depth. Perhaps define the shading depth a bit in those places. Curve the shading on the haunch, add shading to << that ear, and erase any eye shading. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 04:48, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 05:08, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 05:16, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 06:09, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe smooth out the shading a bit more? Crystie You captured my heart 10:06, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Could you add a second shading layer to define the depth? Seems very flat at the moment. Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 15:22, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 21:06, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Could you check for any leaking shading and places where it needs smoothing? --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 21:13, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 08:10, November 18, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading and add some light to the front legs. —Patchfeather^{Hangar 18, I know too much} 15:53, November 19, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 20:47, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading some more, if you need an example on how much you should smooth it, you could try taking a look at some of the approved chararts with a smooth shading style, to give you an idea, so you won't get many or no more comments about smoothing it. Having something to look to as an example can be a tremendous help. The shading is leaking away from the line art on the front of the haunch toward the front leg, and there appears to be some on both of the front legs too. Do you think you can define the light on the tail some just after the bend? It looks like there's some shading there where there should be light. Depending on how you're smoothing the shading, it can leak away from the line art, so I suggest after you smooth it you go around checking and filling in any leaky spots. —Patchfeather^{Hangar 18, I know too much} 15:36, November 25, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 09:29, November 26, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading some, as it looks quite blotchy at the moment, and it also appears to be leaking away from the lineart along the back. After that, define the depth by adding a secondary layer of shading to areas that would be a bit darker if your source is coming from our right. — max ^{it is the real thing,} (00:30, 27/11/2019)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 03:02, December 3, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not seeing a difference. Leave your shading depth layer a tad sharper and see if that will help. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 03:03, December 3, 2019 (UTC)

I think I still see some leaking shading on the back, But im not 100% sure Moo (talk) 20:50, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

^^theres leaking on the back there. Define theshading on the face (and ears too), i can't really see it. ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 16:22, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 08:26, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

There still is a lack of shading depth. You need to add an additional layer of shading that is darker or at a higher opacity along the main shading later, but doesn't reach as far along the body as the main shading layer. Eggheart!🐥^{A True Warrior} 18:09, December 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 22:58, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Whitewing (W) - For Approval 

Welp here we go <3 (Tysm Thunder who kindly gave me my beautiful Whitewing) Moo (talk) 01:27, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Add/define the shading depth. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 01:33, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

some random specks of white are around the image, here

—Hrafnsmál ^{The raven's call} 01:44, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Moo (talk) 01:59, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Smoothen out the transition between shading depths and define the light on the pawsEggheart!🐥^{A True Warrior} 02:08, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Define by adding more shading depth? --Moo (talk) 19:12, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Yes. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 19:28, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Ok! Will do ty --Moo (talk) 19:49, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Looking very nice! add some light to the front legs and a little bit on the back foot closest to us. —Patchfeather^{Hangar 18, I know too much} 15:24, December 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Moo (talk) 20:41, December 3, 2019 (UTC)

Add light to the back paw, and I recommend adding more light to the front legs and paws to make them look less flat.Eggheart!🐥^{A True Warrior} 02:18, December 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not really familiar with the shading and sources, Could someone do me a redline please? Moo (talk) 20:32, December 4, 2019 (UTC)

with the source you have, i would erase some of the shading in these spots that i marked. Could you define the shading depth on the tail as well? —Patchfeather^{Hangar 18, I know too much} 21:01, December 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Are you sure about those light patches? Anyway I did them <3 Moo (talk) 20:48, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

There should only be shading depth on one side of the legs, so remove some on << this side. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 16:49, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

As soon as I get home tomorrow I Will! --Moo (talk) 08:33, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Still working? —Patchfeather^{Hangar 18, I know too much} 21:10, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

Oh my goodness yes sorry Moo (talk) 03:59, December 12, 2019 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused about what Greenflower said, Ok scratch that - REALLY confused. Can I have some help or explanation? Thank you guys <3 Moo (talk) 06:49, December 13, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure myself, Millie, but, here's a redline for where you could put/expand some shading depth to help finish this off (what you've got on the tail is fine, that's why I left it :D) — max ^{it is the real thing,} (19:58, 13/12/2019)

Whitewing (K) ~ For Evaluation

Sandy ^{My Talk} 21:10, December 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth a bit. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 23:51, December 4, 2019 (UTC)

recede the shading everywhere. ~Ripple ☆ 02:11, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 05:39, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth layer more. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 13:49, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit? Moo (talk) 20:52, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 21:05, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading maybe? Looking a little sharp --

Wavetail ^{Ya Yeet} 06:09, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth more. It appears you are darkening your shading layer, but that doesn't define the depth as much. Create a new layer of shading, make it thinner than your shading layer, and make it much darker than your shading layer. Smooth it out but leave it a tad sharper than your shading layer, that will help the image with flatness. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 16:48, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Make the shading smoother? --Moo (talk) 08:34, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 08:34, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded again, made it a bit better Sandy ^{My Talk} 20:53, December 9, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth more + smooth the depth on the haunch. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 00:29, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I obviously have issues defining the shading Sandy ^{My Talk} 06:16, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add a little bit more shading on both ears? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 17:42, December 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 10:32, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Could you curve the shoulder shading a little more, it would kind of make a "u" shape in that area, and also smooth out the shading on the bum, above the tail too a little? — max ^{it is the real thing,} (19:03, 15/12/2019)

Reuploaded Sandy ^{My Talk} 20:54, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

Nutwhisker (K) - For Approval

ok ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 21:18, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

this looks darker than his other images in the set? could you also define the texture a bit too? — max ^{it is the real thing,} (23:16, 05/12/2019)

reup ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 02:05, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Can you shade the little chest area poking between the head and foreleg? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 04:12, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

reup —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brambleshade.DA (talk • contribs)

nudge ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 00:04, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

You're only supposed to ask for comments when five days has gone, which it has not. Regardless, I think the texture can be lighter to match the og set? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 03:43, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

reup ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 16:34, December 13, 2019 (UTC)

The texture also seems a little softer, per the apprentice too. — max ^{it is the real thing,} (19:02, 15/12/2019)

hot kittem ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 00:05, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Willowpelt (W)-for evaluation

oof, I will fix this tomorrow, it’s almost midnight---Glacier () 05:37, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

I have fixed the file for you, you needed to link it. Remove the black background, this can be done using a wand tool or clicking the delete background button. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 00:01, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading more. Sandy ^{My Talk} 05:11, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Where is the light source? --Moo (talk) 08:34, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Shading is disappearing near the lineart. What I did to fix this was fill the lineart with my shading colour and then blur, so the tool doesn’t blur the shading with the blank space. As for the background, I recommend lowering the opacity of that layer and adding a layer on top with the lineart (full opacity) so you can see where there should be black and where there shouldn’t be. I’m probably not the best for advice though; I’m also only a project kit. --

Wavetail ^{Ya Yeet} 22:25, December 7, 2019 (UTC) Oof, I think I was seeing the old version (my page didn’t reload). Nvm --

Wavetail ^{Ya Yeet} 22:42, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

add depth to the shading and there is a corner of waste where the tail bends. this looks very good! ~Ripple ☆ 00:56, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

Lighten the eye color a bit. They're supposed to be sky blue. Smooth out the haunch shading a little while you're at it too. Good job so far, Oceanpelt! --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 01:11, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

re-uploaded (shading, eye color, and waste.---Glacier () 03:29, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

Add some light on the front legs? Sandy ^{My Talk} 08:58, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

The shading is very flat. Try adding a second layer of shading (but only cover like half of what you've originally shaded) to add depth. Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 23:41, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up (also it looks like the legs are a different color so I will mess around with it tomorrow)---Glacier () 03:14, December 9, 2019 (UTC)

Smudge the shading on the back tail. Sandy ^{My Talk} 21:05, December 9, 2019 (UTC)

Still a little dot of waste near the bend of the tail :P --

Wavetail ^{Ya Yeet} 05:36, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

re-up---Glacier () 12:05, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out your shading layers a bit. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 01:01, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

Will re upload soon, GIMP has been acting up. (When I try to select the image to erase white on the inside the eraser doesn’t work)---Glacier () 18:55, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

Still need to add light on the front legs? Sandy ^{My Talk} 10:35, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Oh noes, I messed it up--Glacier () 19:20, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

There's a little bit of waste in in the bottom left corner. And your shading layers still need to be smoothed out a bit. Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 19:41, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Wasptail (W) ~ For Approval

I couldn't tell if there was texture on the apprentice or just the design of the stripes, so I left it as is.

—Hrafnsmál ^{The raven's call} 16:02, December 6, 2019 (UTC)

Looks like there is a LITTLE texture on the apprentice, but I had to look very close to see it so I would say it’s fine---Glacier () 03:05, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

Looking at the old warrior and apprentice, I think there's some faint highlights on it and the stripes look a tiny bit smudgier? The earpink looks a bit dark compared to her other images too, is that shading? could you erase some of it, if it is? The shading you have looks good, and this is only a suggestion that you don't have to do, but perhaps try a warmer shading tint? you could try red, I think that would look nice. Again, you don't have to if you'd rather keep the tint you have. —Patchfeather^{Hangar 18, I know too much} 21:25, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

User asked for an extension until the weekend due to in real life obligations. Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 04:31, December 17, 2019 (UTC)

Spider Paw (Alt. W) - For Approval

~Ripple ☆ 07:21, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Can you make the eyes green to match the set? Nicely done! Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 17:18, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded. thanks vec :) ~Ripple ☆ 17:33, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Could you give a bit more shape to the shading, especially the haunch? I also think it might be leaking on the haunch, speaking of. —Jayce(01:45, 12/09/2019)

Define the shading depth on the haunch triangle/belly triangle thing. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 00:30, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

Still working? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 19:43, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

i will reupload soon, aight? ~Ripple ☆ 06:30, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded. ~Ripple ☆ 04:12, December 17, 2019 (UTC)

Woollytail (W) ~ For Approval

♥ Star _{red and black ♥}<17:27, 12/08/2019>

Per the tunneler, he needs white on his back legs. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 17:33, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

Could you also smooth the foreleg shading too? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 19:16, December 8, 2019 (UTC)

re-up ♥ Star _{red and black ♥}<01:50, 12/10/2019>

I still think the <--- foreleg's shading could be smoothed a bit more. Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 03:47, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

re-up ♥ Star _{red and black ♥}<15:40, 12/15/2019>

Violet Dawn (W) ~ CBA

❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 03:48, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

The texture on her other images looks darker than on this. —Patchfeather^{Hangar 18, I know too much} 15:54, December 12, 2019 (UTC)

reup tried to make it darker, but its already pretty dark along side her other images ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 00:02, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 03:30, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Windflight (W) ~ For Approval

Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 21:10, December 13, 2019 (UTC)

Wrenflight (K) - CBA

File:Wrenflight.kit.png Will fix the eyes in a moment. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 01:48, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 01:49, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 03:33, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Birch (W) - CBA

I was initially unsure whether I was allowed to take these images and why someone else already hadn't, but then I saw the history of the Warrior OAs page. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you saving them for me because you certainly would have been well justified in removing my OA claims; six months was more than enough time for me to complete them. So yeah, anyway, thank you. —Ivy ☆ 15:26, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

The eyes seem very washed out compared to his set. I'm not sure if it's wikia, but would you mind making the eyes more amber? --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 15:33, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. It's definitely Wikia, because the eyes do not look washed out at all in my art program. I've had this problem before with other images too. I tried to brighten the eye color some, but tell me if you think it needs to be brightened any further. —Ivy ☆ 17:01, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

They seem okay on mobile, but the desktop has them washed out still. Although I'm afraid if you change them any further, you'll deviate from the colors on his other images... so I think it's okay to keep them as-is, and see if the images don't refresh themselves and fix the coloring later on. —Jayce(21:48, 12/14/2019)

CBA, then? Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 03:33, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Cloverfoot (W) - For Approval

—Ivy ☆ 16:44, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

There's waste and miscolored pixels on the tail. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 16:48, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. —Ivy ☆ 17:10, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

I feel the stripes are slightly sharper on her other images. —Jayce(21:46, 12/14/2019)

Feathertail (Alt. W 2) - For Approval

#challengetime2 --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 21:35, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Please tell me you didn't trace from Sunjaw's version without her permission. Normally I'm not one to comment on stuff like that... but I'm a little concerned because the stripes are almost identical to the version Sun was going to post. —Jayce(21:45, 12/14/2019)​​​​​​

I don't think it was her intention to trace. Even if it was, it was allowed on Hawkfrost, Tigerstar, Bramblestar and so on. ~Ripple ☆ 22:02, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Tracing was allowed on those images because the whole point of the redo was to make sure they match as close to 100% as possible. That is the only reason where tracing is allowed if the images need to match exactly. Other than that, no one should be tracing another person's image without their explicit permission. Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 22:14, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Potato did not trace over Sun's image exactly.  She is very aware that the stripes seem similar, but they aren't the exact same. They have different placements. Many of the features are different, for example, the white, tan, texture, eyes, ear/nose pink and pupils are all different. She may have used Sun's image as a reference, which, in my opinion, is all right. The smudging style is different from Sun's and you can clearly see the placement isn't the same. She assures you this isn't copied. ~Ripple ☆ 22:45, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Ripple, this does not concern you. This is a matter between Potato and the leads, and I'm not liking how you seem to be speaking for her without her being here. Unless you know something we don't, I don't think you should be doing this. The stripes themselves look traced, and given that Sunjaw is not here, I don't think her image should be used as such without her permission. That does count as theft. Whether you think it's okay or not does not change the fact that the stripes were traced without permission from the person who uploaded the version that Potato is referencing. —Jayce(22:49, 12/14/2019)​​

After some alone time and thought, I'm going to tell my side of the story.

I did not, and had no intent, to plagiarize Sun's image. I know plagiarism isn't allowed. Yes, the image is similar, but I did not do the stripes the way you think I did. I looked at the stripes, and drew the stripes based on the image. No copying stripes. I layered the image over again and revised (again no copying) based on the image Sun made. I did a lot of things different than her, and the stripes are no exception.

Please understand that I never had any intentions on plagiarism, never, not even once. It looks similar but I reassure all of you they are different. They are, I am being honest. --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 00:13, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

It does seem extremely weird though, that when you compare the two images, the stripe placement is almost pixel-for-pixel. Potato, I'm not angry or mad or anything of the sort; I'm honestly just so baffled at how similar they look. Would you object to letting either myself or another lead viewing the file you have so we can verify for ourselves and to squash the uneasy feeling that some of us are getting? —Jayce(03:54, 12/16/2019)​

Um yes, you can... --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 03:58, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Birchfall (W) ~ For Approval

Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 22:14, December 14, 2019 (UTC)

Frisk (Ki) - For Approval

Asked David if I could redo the pattern, they didn't care. Kept the same basic coloring. —Jayce(03:59, 12/15/2019)

Reedtail (K) ~ For Approval

I am not worthy Vec ^{I am Iron Man! 👾} 04:05, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

Wolfheart (Ki) ~ For Approval

Comments? Bluestar ^{Leaf flying in the wind} 23:15, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

Wishkit (K) - For Approval

why do i always do charart at 2 am ❀ mei ❀ ^GOGOBEBE 07:00, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Mallowtail (Ki) - For Approval

—Jayce(18:33, 12/16/2019)​

Define the shading on the non-white areas on both images. Bluestar ^{Leaf flying in the wind} 13:46, December 17, 2019 (UTC)

Mallowtail (W) - For Approval

I would just like to say that after the kit and this, my hands hurt. —Jayce(18:33, 12/16/2019)​

Can you add some shading to the back leg closest to us? --Av ^{Out of sight and out of mind} () 19:45, December 16, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Oops. —Jayce(19:55, 12/16/2019)