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White Rogue (Ro) - For Evaluation
This is my first charart. I tried my best and I hope you guys like it! Iceclaw111 17:24, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
The image is too pixelated and isn't the right size. It needs to be the same size as the rogue blanks. There's also no shading (which is a requirement of the project) that I can see. —Jayce(17:48, 5/04/2020)
As Jayce said, the file size is way too big; it should be 176x112 pixels but this is 611x408 pixels. Make sure to download the blank properly from the pixel blanks. This image also needs shading, to which you can view a shading placement guide on our apprentice tutorials along with other helpful information. Also do not thumb or align your image as it messes with the page layout. Also, from which book is this rogue from? Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 17:48, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I did download the blank from the blank page, but something must have happened. Do you think I should scrap this one and try again?Iceclaw111 18:01, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
The rouge is from a clan in need. 18:02, May 4, 2020 (UTC)Iceclaw111
From my experiences with prior users who face this problem, they ultimate redo the image once they have the correct file size. And is this rogue listed on our minor characters page? Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 18:07, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
Yes the rouge is in the minor characters page, you can go to it by looking at the reservation table then clicking on the dashed rouge link. Iceclaw111 18:12, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
I think there might be some confusion as to who this character is; if they're from a Clan in Need, they'd be listed on the above page Vec linked, which they are but, under a different description due to the coloured reprint. I'd maybe suggest looking there to see which of the linked cats under the Clan in Need heading matches this character's debut in the graphic novels (if that makes sense? I don't have a copy of these books handy). If they do match up to one listed on the minor characters for those books, I'd suggest matching to the coloured description. — max it is the real thing, (22:32, 04/5/2020)
Lets just call it the white cat with blue eyes, I will add the blue eyes in and fix the teeth up. Iceclaw111 16:19, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
Oh and dont delcine it just yet because there is a background I am working on removing it. Iceclaw111 16:31, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
Re Uploaded --Iceclaw111 17:10, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
Re Uploaded I added some shading to the face and re did the teeth on the collar.Iceclaw111 19:50, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
Iceclaw, the charart needs to be of a character from the books, whether it be named or simply a minor character. If you cannot find the colored version of this cat from the minor characters page, it will be declined. ♥ Star red and black ♥<21:09, 5/05/2020>a's your turn" data-rte-attribs=" style title=?it's your turn?">r❄ 've been looking for" data-rte-attribs=" style title=?are you the one i've been looking for?">show yourself, i'm ready to learn<21:09, 5/05/2020>
White BloodClan catEdit Noimage Description: long-haired white cat with blue eyes and a black tooth-studded collar[8] Rank(s): BloodClan[8] History: They are shown fighting over scraps with a white BloodClan cat when the ThunderClan patrol arrives at Twolegplace. They are promptly scared off and are seen dashing off intro the streets. That is the one. I do not know why it was called a dashed rouge, but it indeed is white. Can I change the name from dashed rouge to white rouge? --Iceclaw111 02:33, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded Now its a longhaired cat --Iceclaw111 03:15, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
The shading needs a lot more definition and depth, as right now, the image is still rather flat. --Av Out of sight and out of mind () 16:24, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
Reup I had to reupload twice due to a mistake. Added more shading. Thanks Potato! --Iceclaw111 17:10, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded Changing the shading. --Iceclaw111 17:28, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
I went ahead and renamed it for you. Please continue to reupload over File:RP-2.rogue-10.png. There also appears to be missing lineart over the image. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 02:06, May 7, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded Fixed the lineart. Thanks Vec! --Iceclaw111 15:49, May 7, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded Messed with the shading, and fixed more of the lineart. --Iceclaw111 15:58, May 7, 2020 (UTC)
Please define and expand the shading. Also, I'm not sure what those gray lines are meant to be. Is it texture? ♥ Star red and black ♥<16:25, 5/07/2020>a's your turn" data-rte-attribs=" style title=?it's your turn?">r❄ 've been looking for" data-rte-attribs=" style title=?are you the one i've been looking for?">show yourself, i'm ready to learn<16:25, 5/07/2020>
https://vvcap.com/FCQQvRsQw here is the redline for the teeth on the collar you wanted. Can you fix the blurred line art? —PatchfeatherHangar 18, I know too much 23:36, May 8, 2020 (UTC)
Reup Thanks for the redline Patch. I feel as if there is something wrong with the teeh though.
Iceclaw111 19:33, May 11, 2020 (UTC)
The teeth are too large and there are still several instances of the lineart being covered accidentally throughout the image. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 16:05, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
Reup --Iceclaw111 Its Spring! 16:48, May 14, 2020 (UTC)
Reup I love the shading now. --Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 19:55, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
ReupGonna shade the head next --Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 20:25, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Reup --Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 20:34, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Darken the shading more, especially on the tail. Unless this cat is depicted with texturr, it shouldn't have it. --Av Out of sight and out of mind () 20:36, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Reup I removed the texture and darkened the shading. --Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 21:04, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
why does it look blurry? the lineart and shading seem to be on the same layer? ~Ripple ☆ 21:07, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Yes they are on the same layer, should I change that? --Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 21:26, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Yes. If you shade on the lineart layer, you risk blurring the lineart. --Av Out of sight and out of mind () 21:53, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
I suggest deleting the current lineart since it's already blurry and uploading a clean one. your layers should also be in multiply mode, i think. ~Ripple ☆ 23:48, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Smooth out the shading a little bit, and maybe define the shading a little more on the tail. —Ivy ☆ 12:59, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
I will get to work on it today. --Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 13:37, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
Dark gray tom (W) - For Approval
~Ripple ☆ 22:32, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
There's some waste around the image.
—Hrafnsmál The raven's call 22:53, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
reuploaded. ~Ripple ☆ 23:09, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps smudge out the earpink a bit? Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 01:37, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
reuploaded. ~Ripple ☆ 03:01, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
Smooth out the overall shading; it clashes a bit too much. —Jayce(02:36, 5/07/2020)
reuploaded. --~Ripple ☆ 22:19, May 9, 2020 (UTC)
Shading could be defined a bit more, and maybe overall depth too. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 16:15, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
I feel like it needs a bit of texture. Iceclaw111 Its Spring! 16:03, May 14, 2020 (UTC)
If not following a set, texture is optional and artist's choice. Ripple does not have to if they do not want to add texture. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 16:05, May 14, 2020 (UTC)
reuploaded. i had to redo it because my old art tool made the lineart blurry. ~Ripple ☆ 16:43, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Smooth out the lower chest and belly shading a bit? Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 23:56, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
reuploaded. ~Ripple ☆ 02:57, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
Alderheart (Re) ~ For Approval
might fix the eyes ♥ Star red and black ♥<22:31, 5/08/2020>
He needs the white tail-tip. Bluestar Leaf flying in the wind 22:46, May 8, 2020 (UTC)
re-up big smart ♥ Star red and black ♥<23:15, 5/08/2020>
Just a minor thing but could you change the pupils or the eye highlights a little? They’re looking a little... bug eyed, for lack of better word. --Wavetail Ya Yeet 09:15, May 10, 2020 (UTC)
re-up ♥ Star red and black ♥<23:37, 5/12/2020>
Maybe add some shading above the head (like the shoulders that are up) and maybe add a stripe or two? EDIT- sorry forgot to mention, maybe expand the shading on the tail? Juniperclaw (talk) 03:54, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Juniperclaw, where do you mean by the "shoulders that are up"? Could you perhaps give a redline? ♥ Star red and black ♥<20:24, 5/15/2020>
I think he's talking about the hump behind the ears. --Av Out of sight and out of mind () 20:51, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I meant! I didn't know how to described it, I'm sorry, lol! Juniperclaw (talk) 22:03, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
re-up ♥ Star red and black ♥<18:00, 5/19/2020>
Spotfur (Re) - For Approval
Might mess with the shading later --Wavetail Ya Yeet 01:50, May 10, 2020 (UTC)
this looks great! maybe darken the shading on the tail and add "for approval" on the heading. ~Ripple ☆ 02:06, May 10, 2020 (UTC)
Blur the markings a little-Glacier (02:47, 5/10/2020)
Reup I keep forgetting oops- --Wavetail Ya Yeet 03:19, May 10, 2020 (UTC)
From what I can tell from the apprentice, which the first in the set, and ideally the side you'd be matching to for the pattern for this image - she's got a pale underside as well as the white markings, and the transition between the two is very soft.
The stripes/spots also look a little lighter on the apprentice as well and seem to have the same soft edges to them as well. They also look smaller and there appears to be more of them, while the forehead markings seem to resemble an "M" a little more, and the pale markings and white come up a little bit higher as well. — max it is the real thing, (04:39, 10/5/2020)
Reup Not seeing the pale underside? Also added a little ‘v’ between the forehead stripes :P --Wavetail Ya Yeet 09:10, May 10, 2020 (UTC)
I concur with Max - there is a pale underside that is reflected on all of her images, a secondary light gray shade between the base and the white. It comes up slightly to outline the haunch and belly; and transitions the tail color. To which - for the tail, I think there's a touch too much white, and that the gray to white transition is too sharp, and should be smudged more.—spooky is that... a furry cat?!? 15:08, 5/10/2020
Reup I think my grey is too light for the underside I’ll probs fix that, lightened the spots a little since I forgot to before --Wavetail Ya Yeet 05:34, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
Reup Is this better? I see it now lol --Wavetail Ya Yeet 05:52, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
Could you add more gradiance between the gray and white that Max and spooky were referring to? It's still not noticeable. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 23:58, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
Reup Also smudged the white a little so it flows better with the grey, there was a pretty noticeable line after I extended the grey --Wavetail Ya Yeet 00:59, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
The earpink and nosepink appear to be missing? The spots/stripes could also still be a little bit softer, I think - when comparing to the apprentice and kit. They could also use with a little more size variation as shown on those two images, what you've got currently is quite uniform - where the set shows a lot more variation.
The white on the forelegs could stand to still have a softer smudge like the tail too, which shows on apprentice. Also, those leg stripes on the white aren't as dark either and could be lightened. The tail stripes could also be smudgier to match the style shown as well and could also use some lightening too? — max it is the real thing, (04:25, 17/5/2020)
Whoops forgot about the earpink and nosepink, I make most layers invisible to clear up the screen while I work on other layers :P Will work on the smudging and stripes --Wavetail Ya Yeet 00:54, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
Reup The pink is back lol XD spots are hard --Wavetail Ya Yeet 09:21, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
Jayfeather (Re) - For Approval
I feel like I forgot something...
-Glacier (21:32, 5/12/2020) Reup
Did you add the scar? I can't see it. —Jayce(21:46, 5/12/2020)
The stripes seem a bit rougher too, and it's missing a dorsal stripe Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 21:52, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
The eyes seem too dark compared to the set. --Av Out of sight and out of mind () 22:15, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
I see the scar, it just seems a bit faint. --Wavetail Ya Yeet 22:32, May 12, 2020 (UTC)
Reup
Maybe define the shading or darken it a little bit? Juniperclaw (talk) 03:55, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
I feel like he is a bit darker, only a tad bit. Also could you shade a bit more?
Iceclaw111, April showers bring May showers 16:10, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Make sure to put your comments at the very end, and try not to repeat comments, as Juniperclaw already mentioned the shading. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 16:20, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
The stripes need a bit more texture if you know what I mean? Iceclaw111, April showers bring May showers 16:20, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Reup redid the herbs too, didn’t like the way they looked before. They looked to neon and it didn’t look like they were actually in his mouth
I feel as if the stripes on his forehead are a bit long. Maybe you could shorten them a bit?
Iceclaw111 Its Spring! 15:24, May 14, 2020 (UTC)
I feel like they match his images well, can someone give a second opinion?
They seem fine to me; I think it's just a perspective issue here. The other images don't have as much room on the head as these blanks do. —Jayce(15:53, 5/14/2020)
Reup rounded off the edges of the herbs, it was bothering me
Maybe add some shading to the herbs? Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 16:25, May 14, 2020 (UTC)
Reup
The stripes seem a bit more rougher on the other images, instead they seem smooth here. And they appear to have some faint lighter texture over them too on the other images. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 23:59, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
I think the scar could also taper a little more at the tips of it; basically have them end in sharper points so it doesn't just look like a single brush stroke imo. It could also a lighter pink as well; likely the same shade as the earpink because in the old medicine cat that showed it, it was depicted that way? — max it is the real thing, (04:20, 17/5/2020)
maybe duplicate the stripes layer and put it on a lower opacity to make them look a little rougher? ~Ripple ☆ 04:25, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
Berrynose (Alt Lo) ~ For Approval
how they keep making this mistake is beyond me
—Hrafnsmál The raven's call 03:38, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Maybe expand and define the shading depth? Juniperclaw (talk) 03:53, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Yes maybe shade it a bit more, and add a tad bit of texture? Iceclaw111, April showers bring May showers 16:11, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
The set is being tweaked to remove the texture, so what Thunder has is fine. Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 16:18, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Iceclaw111, April showers bring May showers 16:21, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
reuploaded
—Hrafnsmál The raven's call 20:29, May 13, 2020 (UTC) Expand shading?
Smooth out the shading too, it's very blotchy at the moment. --Av Out of sight and out of mind () 20:46, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
reuploaded one day i'll be decent at shading
—Hrafnsmál The raven's call 05:14, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
maybe smooth out the belly shading and your shading looks fine, thunder, much better than i would ever do. ~Ripple ☆ 18:28, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
The shading could actually use a tiny bit more smoothing overall. The tail shading is also leaking over the hock/haunch. --Av Out of sight and out of mind () 18:47, May 16, 2020 (UTC)
reuploaded —Hrafnsmál The raven's call 05:28, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
Snowbird (Re) ~ For Approval
Comments? Bluestar Leaf flying in the wind 19:07, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Smooth out the shading a bit more. Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 19:24, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded. Bluestar Leaf flying in the wind 19:31, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Thats better. I feel like the shading on the lower right side is a bit much, so make it lighter or reduce the shading if you know what I mean? Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 19:33, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded. Bluestar Leaf flying in the wind 20:10, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Can you smooth out the shading on the lower right now? Sorry if I am blasting you with shading suggestions. Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 20:27, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded. Bluestar Leaf flying in the wind 20:38, May 15, 2020 (UTC)
Maybe add some shading to the upper shoulder part (on --> side of the head, not the top bump above the head), and maybe a little triangle in the exposed flank/belly area? Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 00:02, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
Reuploaded. Bluestar Leaf flying in the wind 01:44, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
Maybe smooth out the shading overall, especially on the bum and tail. Juniperclaw (talk) 19:41, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
Sparkpelt (Re) ~ For Approval
idk maybe Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 17:52, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
Add more depth. Iceclaw111 Its Spring! My Claws Are Melting!☀️ 19:14, May 18, 2020 (UTC)
Reups Vec I am Iron Man! 👾 19:40, May 18, 2020 (UTC)