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Alder (Kit) ~ For Approval

Isn't she the cutest little thing? I know I'm not actually part of the project, so if there's anything wrong with how I reserved her (I put my name in the table and followed its format) please notify me and I will withdraw her. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 23:11, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Brighten the white a bit? Very nice! -Rustle _{it takes a leap of faith}3:09 Wed Nov 6 2013

Smooth out the shading, it looks a bit blotchy ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 04:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded That's as bright as the white can get, and Scarletwind, are you talking about the shading on her left front paw? There's a patch of gray there that makes it look blotchy, I can remove it if you want, though. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:31, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

There is a square-patch of somesort that needs to be blurred/smudged. Here: [1] Yes, I circled it due to the fact that I can't explain for crap. Not because I'm getting up in your face. ;) It looks amazing, Ember. Keep it up! Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 03:55, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

That area looks fine to me, Dark???? This is actually really cute omg. Maybe define the shading in general? —Jayce(07:23, 11/7/2013)

No, I see what dark is getting at. You can't see it in the zoom version but its like a squareish shape cut out? I'm horrible at explaining but yeah can you smudge there? User:Kelpsey/Sig 10:03 Thu Nov 7

I still can't see what you're looking at. Maybe it's because of the eyelashes? It seems to disguise the area around it, and I still say it's fine. —Jayce(12:26, 11/7/2013)

Here, I zoomed out, and screwed the eyelash for a better view: [2] Can you see the square now, Snowy? o.o Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 12:40, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here if changes aren't showing. That was part of her white, but it did look weird so I extended the gray. I think the shading is fine, but if more people think I should define it then I will. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:32, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Blue the shading on the legs, and define the neck shading - if you're using this light source. Queen Beebs 14:22, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here if changes aren't showing Emberpoppy7 (talk) 15:46, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on our left side of the image. It's darker than the rest of her body. --User:Brightpool/Sig 17:45, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Darkness doesn't need to be the same throughout the entire image. ^^ —Jayce(17:51, 11/10/2013)

Can you blur the ear pink more into her pelt? --User:Brightpool/Sig 01:48, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here for changes if Wikia is being a butt.

Ember, it'd probably be best if you didn't use Photobucket. It's not really a private hosting site like iaza or something. To my knowledge at least, you'd be publicly uploading it on there, which isn't allowed with wwiki blanks. Best to use some other hosting site that's private such as iaza. Paleh Send help 06:42,11/12/2013

All right. I didn't know it was against the rules. See here for changes. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 01:48, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Smooth out the dark patches of shading on her legs and <<< chest. Queen Beebs 23:27, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Those aren't dark patches of shading, it's because of the grey that it looks dark. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:30, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Either way, lighten them a touch and you're losing your earpink in this <-- ear ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 23:05, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Reups Emberpoppy7 (talk) 02:15, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

No comments for a while; CBA? ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 02:06, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt, but please define the shading from the patches, and vice versa, on <<<< side still. I can barely tell what are patches, and what is shading. Queen Beebs 16:19, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here if changes aren't showing. I darkened the patches, does that help? Emberpoppy7 (talk) 21:40, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Could you also perhaps whiten the white? It's starting to look a bit gray. Queen Beebs 21:41, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

I'll see what I can doEmberpoppy7 (talk) 21:46, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Reups Here How's that?

Define the shading on the haunch and the tail. Queen Beebs 23:29, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Blarf Emberpoppy7 (talk) 00:27, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Leaf (Ro) ~ For Approval

File:Leaf (DTC).rogue.png Meh, I fail. Anyways, I put "For Evaluation" because this is my first charart! But as I've seen in other discussions, it can be removed when the user knows what he/she knows what they're doing. So, comments? --Derpberry 23:51, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Can you darken the highlights a smidge? The seem shiny. Nice job! ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}1:56 Wed Nov 6

He needs to be black and white, if I'm not mistaken. Queen Beebs 01:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink and give him a gray nose ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 04:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I ended up having to redo the whole image...if there is a way to make a gray and white cat black and white without redoing the image, please tell me. This took up so much of my time. *.* --Derpberry 20:28, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the white is very gray. Also, define the unshaded parts more. Also, can you make the pattern a bit more realistic, like this maybe? I like those eyes. ;) ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}23:00 Wed Nov 6

Re-uploaded 'Kay, for some reason, the wiki won't let me upload this image, so I brought a link with me. Thanks Hawk for the picture, it helped. Changes are [3].

To be perfectly honest, the pattern was more realistic before... I think that pattern was just fine. Paleh Send help 00:17,11/7/2013

I think this one is more realistic, just overblurred. Maybe try smudging it instead of blurring it so much? ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}0:35 Thu Nov 7

Hmmm..Maybe try to aim for it to look like this? [4] I did a quick version of what I'd do..maybe you can get some tips and pointers from this. ;) Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 04:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Dark, I do apologize, but that's not very natural either, and I'm going to agree with Paleh, that the pattern before was more realistic. Perhaps try to go back to that one if possible? I liked it. *.* —Jayce(05:10, 11/7/2013)

That's fine, Cloudy. It was only a 30 second job..xD Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 21:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I kind of liked the pattern before. I switched back. ouo --Derpberry 22:08, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Okay, I kind of blurred the ear pink because I thought it looked...odd. --Derpberry 22:09, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

The earpink is leaking out of the ear. Also, can you sharpen the black patches, as they seem overblurred? ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}1:00 Fri Nov 8

Re-uploaded I switched back to the originals, so there aren't any black patches anymore. Blurred ear pink, though. --Derpberry 01:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

It looks over-smudged. Sharpen the black patches, they're losing their shape definition ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 05:43, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

'Kay, I'm sorry to say this, but I'm going on a trip to China to see my relatives for two weeks, which means I don't get to finish this image in time. I just found out about the Internet connection there and let me say...it's not to hot. So, can someone please take over. I was so mad, but I guess fairest is fairest...--Derpberry 21:51, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take over. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 01:36, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Uploaded. Bahh, I guess it's okay. ._. I thought about texturing the white for some time while making, but then decided it wouldn't look good..soo, Comment away my friends! And may they be good. c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 02:48, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't align your images. Also the pattern isn't very realistic, maybe something like this, or even this would work. Also define the shading, earpink and nosepink, I'm having a bit of trouble seeing them. --User:Wildd Side/Sig 02:54 Sat Nov 9

Also, maybe smudging instead of blurring would work. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}3:35 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. This came out beautifully..I followed first suggestion-cat, Wildd. And sorry about the aligning image thing, didn't know. See changes [5] if the wiki is acting up again. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 13:26, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}20:21 Sat Nov 9

I don't really know how to put this in better words, but something about the black patches seems to be throwing me off. Maybe define them, or...I don't really know. Just saying. --User:Brightpool/Sig 17:32, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I can't exactly see the ear pink. Maybe darken it? --User:Brightpool/Sig 01:50, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

You can see the earpink just fine? o.o It's practically whacking people in the face, imo. And if I darken it, I'll have to lighten it. So, it's fine. As for the pattern, it's from an actual black-and-white cat, so I won't change it.. And, they are defined enough, and if I define them anymore, it'll make this image look slightly over-defined, and possibly pixelated. But yeah, Hawky, I'll define that shading. c: But, thanks for your comments, Brightpool, and please recognize that I'm not brushing them off, but, because what you have mentioned, are in perfect shape and form, I will not change unless someone else points it out/agrees to your comments. Hope that made sense! I re-upload tonight. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 17:57, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I'm actually going to agree with Brightpool on this one. I think the black is a teeny bit too dark (and coming from me, that's saying something since I love black and white cats), and they seem a little too overblurred. The earpink could also be a little more pink-ish, imho, but not all that more. I think the pattern itself is good, however. —Jayce(18:06, 11/11/2013)

Re-uploaded. Thanks. I hope this fixed the problems.. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 20:13, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Please leave a image-hosting link of the image. I honestly have no clue what version I'm looking at User:Kelpsey/Sig 20:20 Mon Nov 11

The black patch on the tail is gray on the bottom. --User:Brightpool/Sig 21:26, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry~ [6] And as for the gray, that's the tail shading. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 22:05, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Then if that's the tail shading for the black patch, shouldn't it be darker, because gray is lighter than black...sorry if a sound like a pain in the butt, but I just noticed it right now. --User:Brightpool/Sig 23:34, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, you're not a pain! c; But, the reason I won't make it a darker gray, is because you may not be able to see the shading. And then, I'll have to revert it back to this current version. But, if someone else agrees with you, I'll change it. :) Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 00:06, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading quite a fair bit. Also, lighten the black a bit and darken the shading on the black only. Also, what's up with the tail, and why is there a lighter gray stripe on it? If that's shading, it should be darker, not lighter? I'm confused as to what's part of the pattern on the tail and what's shading and/or highlights. —Jayce(17:09, 11/12/2013)

Re-uploaded. I re-did parts of the image, so the black was less intense so you could see the shading. Zipped the stupid pale stripe on the tail, which originally was a stupid-attempt-at-shading-black. :P I tried to make the black not look over smudged/blurred. But hey, it never looks good to me. At least you can see the shading now, and I'd prefer not to touch it anymore. So yeah. [7] Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 00:19, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

_{sorry for making you touch the shading ;c}The shading on either sides of the belly/back (yes, that whole mid-section area) are very "streaky" (for lack of better word) and need generous expansion, blurring, and lightening (they are very dark/gray). Also, the patches are extremely blurry in some areas, and not blurred in others. If you want, hit me and email and I'll be more than happy to help you with tinting so you can not have to worry about the shading looking gray, but promice me you will use it.. .-. User:Kelpsey/Sig 03:06 Fri Nov 15

Lol, sure I promise. Hit me an email, because believe me, I could really use some tips and pointers. Black-'n'-white cats are beginning to be the death of me. xD Even though, they're one of my personal favorites. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 03:42, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading some, as well? Besides what Kelps said, they could be more smoother and less blurred. Queen Beebs 23:28, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't uploaded, my computer died. :O I'm getting a new one..Uploads will be either tonight or tomorrow. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 20:53, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 01:39, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the white needs to be thickened and blurred ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 23:04, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Now, I'd prefer not to touch the shading anymore. I like the darkness of it right now, and don't really want to change it, as shading darkness is artists choice. Any more comments on the black-'n'-white kitteh? xD Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 02:52, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, the shading on both sides of the belly need tons of blurring and expanding. Also, why is it smudged? O.o Either smudge the rest to match of blur it out- it needs blurring anyways, so... User:Kelpsey/Sig _{06:27 Sat Nov 23}

Withdrawing, sadly..I just can't get him to look right. I'll work on River's kit or something. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 21:26, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to go ahead and take over on this. Shim mer♫ 21:41, 11/24/2013

Re-uploaded From doing this I learned that shading black cats is not my strong point. Shim mer♫ 02:55, 11/26/2013

Darken and define the shading - it looks flat and hard to see. wow he is very pretty Queen Beebs 19:17, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Shim mer♫ 00:54, 12/1/2013

Add some shading to the left of the hind legs to define their placement this is pretty User:Kelpsey/Sig _{09:44 Sun Dec 1}

Smooth out the tail shading - it looks a bit blotchy. Queen Beebs 17:17, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q) - For Approval

Thar she blows! I wanted to do a white cat because I haven't done one since.. Whiteberry. Amber ^{The One}^and ^On ^ly16:04 Fri Nov 8

Define the shading. Pretty! —Jayce(19:28, 11/8/2013)

Define the eye depth a bit, too? Queen Beebs 21:16, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reups! Thanks! ѼAMBERѼ P U M P K I N V S O R E O11:31 Sun Nov 10

I think her eyes still need to be defined better. Maybe make her black pupils wider? Amazing job, Amber! --User:Brightpool/Sig 19:28, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading on the upper chest just a bit? It's a bit blotched. Great job! Splook ^sweet ^{^creature} 00:41 Tue Nov 12

Reups! Hi. Thank yooou, ѼAMBERѼ P U M P K I N V S O R E O18:40 Tue Nov 12

recheck your lightsource _{use a sig sub page maooo >;c} User:Kelpsey/Sig 03:08 Fri Nov 15

Could you specify what you mean? Just saying that is extremely vague and not really helpful at all, imho. —Jayce(04:39, 11/16/2013)

Lol you're right. The tail and belly read that the light coming from our right, and the hind leg off the ground as well as the face read coming from the left, and the other legs are too flat to read. I'll make a tutorial and put it up on a subpage of mine, I'm working on it. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{18:33 Sat Nov 16}

Could you smooth out the shading on the chest? It's starting to get a tad blotchy. Queen Beebs 23:29, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

I think the ear <--- this way needs a bit more gray. Arcticblizzard ^{Booyakasha Shredhead!}

Reups Amber ^{The One}^and ^On ^ly16:07 Wed Nov 20

Where's your light source coming from? Rain legs 00:40, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that's great, Amber! Her pupils need to be more wider. *Swanflutter* Warriors is my life~ 06:18, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Eye style is artist's choice Swan. Paleh Send help 09:14,11/23/2013

Still working? ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 02:05, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

The top left sorry I've been ill Amber ^{The One}^and ^On ^ly17:32 Thu Nov 28

Can you smudge the gray on the ear tips maybe a bit, as it looks a bit hard-edged at this moment. Stoneclaw 00:13,11/30/2013

Clovertail (Q) ~ For Approval

Wow. [8] Her pattern wasn't so bad, and I got her pretty dead on. I didn't really like her, since she was pretty much only with the Clan for protection, and didn't get off her butt to train. But yeah. xD Comment away! Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 14:14, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Where's the light source? The body, I can tell for the most part, but the face says otherwise. Also, define and blur your shading, and whiten the belly and chest white; they appear gray. Also, smudge the earpink, and define the eyedepth ouo Queen Beebs 14:16, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

For shading placement to clear up source issues, I recommend this as a guide, not so far off of your current shading placement. Also, make the white go all the way up the front legs, as the hind legs are fine. Coming along well, Frosty! ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}16:10 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. Thanks, Hawky!! c: I have all the Clovertail files, so when I search Clovertail, I see my image and the rest of her collection. I think mine matches pretty well. But I fixed the shading, eye depth, and made the white more white, and lightened the shading in those areas so it doesn't look gray. See here: [9] if wiki is acting up still. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 19:51, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and darken it on her body. —Jayce(19:53, 11/11/2013)

The white on her forelegs needs to be more higher up, to her belly, and the belly white needs to go up a bit more on her chest. Queen Beebs 20:46, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't tell me you're looking at the wiki image, Beebs..look at the ezimba one, please. If you're not already. c;. But, I'm following how far the white goes up on the other images, and where it is currently, is where the other images' white stops. So I'd rather not change it. And Cloudy, if I darken the shading more, I'll just be told again that the white is gray, the shading over-defined, and the list goes on. Unless, there are certain parts of the shading you'd like to specify..then I'll see what I can do. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 20:56, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops, I was. Well, could you define where the white meets the brown on the chest and shoulders? They seem a bit overblurred. Queen Beebs 21:01, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Could you blur that little strip of shading on her shoulder to make it blend more? Also, could you maybe try to connect the back leg shading (the brown part, not the white) to the back shading? It looks awkward just by cutting it off right there. It's either that or you could blur it more. ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 21:19, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. [10] Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 23:42, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

The shading still should be thickened and darkened on the brown. Why not try shading the white and brown with two different layers? Als, thicken the shoulder shading. I'm also not sure what color you're using to shade, but with how it is, it's starting to change the coloring (especially along the back), and it doesn't seem to match in certain spots. In the case of this shade of brown, try using a darker brown or something along those lines. Never use black- it looks green when you do that. Trust me, I've done it more than enough times. x.x —Jayce(17:20, 11/12/2013)

On that note for the shading tint, when I did the alt queen, I used a darker variation of the base pelt color, on around about 50-60% on multiply, try that. --User:Wildd Side/Sig 08:55 Wed Nov 13

Re-uploaded. Thanks, Wildd. I did try that, and it worked wonders. [11] Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 01:03, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Blur and expand shading tons. Good going so far User:Kelpsey/Sig 03:10 Fri Nov 15

The white pattern looks a little too straight across to be natural, if you know what I mean. Make it curve with the imagined muscles and belly more ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 05:23, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't uploaded, my computer died. :O I'm getting a new one..Uploads will be either tonight or tomorrow. And thanks, Kel c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 20:54, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 01:35, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

It... Still doesn't curve. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{00:24 Sat Nov 23}

It curves...If I change it anymore, it won't look like Clovertail anymore.. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 21:23, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I disagree. What we mean is it needs to follow the contours of the cat's body, making it seem 3D. For example, it should get higher up the left side of the belly and lower as it goes toward the left of the image, go high>>low on the shoulder closest to us, and kind of slope in a curve. I'm terrible at explanations, and I'm out of town right now so if someone is willing to explain my point and/or make a guide then so be it. And yes, it will match. If you fix it up right, it should have the same colors as well as blurring as it does currently. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{05:20 Mon Nov 25}

Re-uploaded. Hope this is what you were looking for, Kels... Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 03:19, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

The white's overblurred. How you had it blurred before was fine, but it was the direction it was going that needed to be tweaked a bit. —Jayce(03:43, 11/26/2013)

Re-uploaded. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 03:30, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

May I ask for comments? Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 14:09, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Switch the light source on the hind leg away from us and the front leg closest to us. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{16:56 Sat Nov 30}

Define the eye depth? ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}23:14 Sat Nov 30

Re-uploaded. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 00:07, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

You never switched those light sources? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{09:25 Sun Dec 1}

I did. :/ The light source is just fine. It all works and makes sense. I took away the light on the back leg, like you asked. And if I moved the front leg one, it wouldn't make sense. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 01:15, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that was the back leg she was talking about. Try moving the other one. —Jayce(01:19, 12/2/2013)

If you're talking about the front leg closest to us, then the shading is on both side of it,, because that's the light source. But if you only want shading on the one side, I'll do that. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 18:02, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

It needs to just be along the back half of her leg, because the hind leg closest to us and the foreleg farthest from us suggest that, along with most of the body. the hind leg farthest from us also needs to have shading along the back. (The back would be our left side) Also remove the strip of shading along our left half of the belly, right along the lineart, and sharpen the facial shading a bit. Rain legs 03:43, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Fallowfern (Q) ~ Withdrawn

Got all the colors from her previous queen image. Here's the link. Comments? —.neha^{it's that gloom boy season.} 02:39, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Could you define the light source? Sorry if I'm missing something but it looks like it's coming from the direct top, but I'm pretty sure the tail would be lit in that case. lol I'm not even in this project Daz zy 04:55, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded -- I moved it to the other side, not sure if that was right or not, I'm hopeless with light sources. x.x If changes aren't showing. —.neha^{it's that gloom boy season.} 19:38, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Make the tint of the shading more creamy, because it looks as if you're using either black or blue, and it's kind of creating a disharmony between the main fur color and shading. Iveh Yo ! 20:28, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Put a little fur into the ears, and smudge it in? Looks good. c: You're not as hopeless as I am with light sources..trust me. x.x Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 19:55, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Smudging and the like on ears isn't mandatory and it's just become a bit of a style preference. —Jayce(19:59, 11/11/2013)

I think the ear pink could have some fur in it. User:Brightpool/Sig 01:33, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

It's a style preference, as Cloudy stated above, so the earpink is fine ^^ Could you define the unshaded areas on the tail and legs? ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 03:36, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded -- I actually used brown for the shading, a color that's a few shades darker than the base. I played around with some things, hopefully it looks better now. If not, I'll probably redo the shading. If changes aren't showing. —.neha^{it's that gloom boy season.} 20:04, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and give the shading some more depth ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 05:24, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Where is your light source? If you want, feel free to ask for a shading image tut... User:Kelpsey/Sig _{04:29 Sat Nov 16}

Re-uploaded -- I just redid the shading, since the source I had was bothering me. Here are the changes. —.neha^{it's that gloom boy season.} 11:48, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Earpink is way too neon, and the shading is a bit blotchy. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{04:26 Wed Nov 20}

Ear pink is the same as the other images. Which, They're fine on those; it's just how this ear pink is done. —Jayce(04:27, 11/20/2013)

Ok. But I just noticed the front leg closest to us's highlight is on the wrong side. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{05:54 Wed Nov 20}

Give the shading a bit more depth and smudge the pelt into the ear pink a bit more ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 23:00, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Just realized I forgot the waste, and to move the leg highlight. I'll get those in the next reupload. —.neha^{it's that gloom boy season.} 00:07, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mmm, optional, but delete the shading between the shoulder and the forearm? It seems like between there they're kind of cut/dislocated in between? I'm horrible at explaining things but if you don't get it then don't worry about it. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{05:24 Mon Nov 25}

Re-uploaded And Kelpsey, I'd rather not, I think it looks okay. —.neha^{it's that gloom boy season.} 13:28, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. But add some structure in the muzzle and cheekbones of the face? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{16:58 Sat Nov 30}

I'm sorry, but I don't have the time right now, so withdrawing. —.neha^{it's that gloom boy season.} 22:42, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

May I take over? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{05:24 Thu Dec 5}

Wait no nevermind I'm retarded wow. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{05:24 Thu Dec 5}

Speckletail (Q) ~ Withdrawn

If change aren't showing. Comments regarding the pattern would be appreciated, I know it's not right in some spots, but I'm not sure what I need to do to fix it. Shim mer♫ 20:12, 11/10/2013

The belly area looks a bit empty...maybe look at the loner, and fill in the empty spot with stripes that match those? Queen Beebs 20:13, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

The stripes are blurred kind of oddly to me, for example, in some places, it's blurred/smudged but in other areas, it is not. Might I suggest that you unblur the areas where you have done so, and then take the blur tool, put it on a very low setting, and go over the stripes that way? Iveh Yo ! 20:24, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading stupid edit conflict Ivy xP ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 20:25, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think the stripes look fine, but possibly add more? Her original queen image had a lot more than this. --User:Brightpool/Sig 02:36, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

You really can't see the earpink, can you make it a bit more pink? Right now it's just brown. HeadmasterGriffin (talk) 14:23, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Here. Definitely happier with the stripes now~ Shim mer♫ 21:44, 11/11/2013

She looks kinda cross-eyed, but that is only the >>> (the cat's left) pupil. This is amazing, Shimmer! ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}21:54 Mon Nov 11

The ear on our right still has no earpink. HeadmasterGriffin (talk) 22:09, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Hawk! I honestly think both of those are fine though. The eyes if someone else agrees I can change I guess. I'd really prefer to leave the earpink how it is though- it's under the shading layer, and it's how I do all of my images. Shim mer♫ 22:30, 11/11/2013

I think the eyes are fine; I honestly think they're very pretty. --User:Brightpool/Sig 22:51, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken the stripes a tad? Queen Beebs 00:42, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, especially on the belly. Paleh Send help 06:53,11/12/2013

I think the stripes don't mmatch the images very well, beyond the thickness. What you should aim for is kind of a classic tabby, but the stripes should be slightly smaller and have one mackerel stripe down the back. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{04:03 Fri Nov 15}

Darken the overall shading; I can't tell where the light's coming from ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 05:26, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Shim mer♫ 00:08, 11/18/2013

Make the stripes more squiggly/jaggedly, a tad bit like a classic tabby? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:47 Tue Nov 19}

Still working? ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 18:21, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Shim mer♫ 21:36, 11/24/2013

Make the stripe points on the body just a biiiit sharper? Queen Beebs 00:10, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Still working, Shim? Queen Beebs 17:19, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but no. Gonna go ahead and withdraw this. x.x Shim mer♫ 22:50, 12/4/2013

Softwing (Q) ~ For Approval

I can't make the shasing darker or it'll be gray. I used another layer for the shading on the patches. Changes are here. Comments? ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}20:42 Sun Nov 17

I'd suggest putting more tabby patches on her side. I know this is a different side than the other images, but white patterns are usually roughly symmetrical, and with that in mind, she currently looks like a totally different cat from this side. Paleh Send help 22:51,11/17/2013

Re-uploaded. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}22:04 Mon Nov 18

Define the shading, whether you darken it or sharpen it or do a combination of both- I can't tell where it is on the face, the legs, or where it's coming from anywhere save for her tail. If you choose to darken it, which is a good route, try sharpening the edges, as well. It only looks too gray once darkened if your shading is overblurred. Rain legs 05:01, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Re-did the shading, and now it is tinted. I don't want to hear that is is too gray or that it needs blurring. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}21:55 Wed Nov 20

Where's your light source coming from? Rain legs 00:28, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

It should be coming from the left. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}1:07 Thu Nov 21

Source is fine imho. Great work!❤❤ User:Kelpsey/Sig _{03:06 Thu Nov 21}

If it's coming from the left than the left side of her belly that we can see wouldn't be in shadow, and there would be a little heavier shading on the right half. (Hawk Swoop is sort of what I'm talking about, but you'd have more highlights on her face from the complete left side, and not a little bit more behind her, like I had it.) Rain legs 03:24, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}0:05 Fri Nov 22

Blur that little piece of shading at the top of her very back leg (the one closest to us). Looks purrrrfect~ (cat puns aw yis) ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 02:31, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

I think the tabby patch on her face could be extended just a smidgen over her forehead. Beautiful Hawk c: --User:Wildd Side/Sig 20:19 Tue Nov 26

Re-uploaded. Thank youuuuuu :3 ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}21:51 Tue Nov 26

Comments before approval? This matches quite well, and you did a good job! Queen Beebs 19:43, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but can you blur the shading more on the back and define the light on the face ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 02:47, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you, Beebs. <3 ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}15:18 Fri Nov 29

Maybe define the shading some more? Stoneclaw 00:11,11/30/2013

I think the shading is fine, but if anyone else agrees I'll define it some more. After all, this cat is a pain is the butt. Damn you white argh ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}17:22 Sat Nov 30

Just define it a touch more. Rain legs 20:51, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uplaoded. Added a tint to the shading. I am seriously done with this image, but I will not give up. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}21:40 Sun Dec 1

This is very nice, Hawk! But the white looks kind of blue. --User:Glitterpelt/Sig 21:51, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

That's because the shading is tinted. Shading doesn't always have to be black, and when it comes to white-and-colored cats, black shading doesn't always work. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}21:53 Sun Dec 1

Rainflower (Q) - For Approval

ok. Splook ^sweet ^{^creature} 02:15 Mon Nov 18

I think it's beautiful! Can you change the nose to pink like in the StarClan image? Arcticblizzard ^{Booyakasha Shredhead!}

I don't think the nose is supposed to be filled in on these blanks? —Jayce(02:29, 11/18/2013)

Oops, my bad. I'm new to these charart things XD Arcticblizzard ^{Booyakasha Shredhead!}

Sharpen the shading on her forelegs a little. This looks fabulous .o. Rain legs 03:59, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

I can't see any highlight on her hind legs.. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:39 Tue Nov 19}

Highlights are not mandatory on images. Perhaps suggest an alternative, since I'm not entirely sure Splook uses highlights. —Jayce(07:52, 11/19/2013)

Maybe smudge the earpink a little since she's longhaired? Daz zy 08:55, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

She needs a highlight on her hind legs, if your light's coming from this angle. At least along the right side (our right) of her foot. (By highlights always assume I mean the lighter areas, whether you use highlights or not.) Rain legs 04:59, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Can you change the position of the eye pupils? Like, maybe in the middle like most images are? --User:Glitterpelt/Sig 23:05, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

The pupils are the artist's choice, unless they're crooked or whatever. These are alright. Rain legs 23:44, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, pink nose please. Anyway, its awesome. :D *Swanflutter* Warriors is my life~ 08:50, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Queens don't have filled noses. Btw please use a user subpage instead of a block of text for your sig User:Kelpsey/Sig _{19:50 Sat Nov 23}

Smudge the pelt into the ear pink. --User:Glitterpelt/Sig 15:58, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Splook ^sweet ^{^creature} 22:51 Sun Nov 24

Define the unshaded parts just a bit? ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 02:25, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Could you darken and define the shading juuuust a bit? —Jayce(08:04, 11/25/2013)

Reuploaded. By defining the shading, I used that as defining the unshaded parts too. Let me know if I should define them more. Splook ^sweet ^{^creature} 17:51 Thu Nov 28

This is completely optional, but may you add a tail highlight? All the other parts of her that are not shaded, have highlights. And I think the tail would match more with a highlight. Looks beautiful, Splook. c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 14:51, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{00:35 Sat Nov 30}

CBA? —Jayce(18:47, 12/1/2013)

The shading's leaking from the back of her tail and from along the edges of her belly. Fix that, and I'll re-CBA. Rain legs 20:50, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Leafstar's Mother (Queen) ~ For Approval

File:Leafstar's Mother.queen.png Something is just... Not here. Not sure what, can someone pinpoint it? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{00:59 Sun Nov 24}

Reuploaded I tried thinning the stripes but it still looks weird someone help me plsplspls User:Kelpsey/Sig _{02:07 Sun Nov 24}

Lighten her base a bit more. Amazing, as always~! ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}2:50 Sun Nov 24

Also shift it so it's a little more cream-ish? Maybe asking Paleh for the file so you can get the colors might be a little easier... —Jayce(08:03, 11/25/2013)

Do you mean the pale brown? I did switch around the colors a bit to define the color, but it's making the gingery stripes look kinda bad. If I switch the pale brown back to the color I colorpicked, then the two colors won't contrast as much as they do now. So what do you say? Define the stripes, or define the pale brown? _{and I did ask Paleclaw for an xcf a while back, she just hasn't returned my message yet} User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:26 Tue Nov 26}

Yes, I'm talking about the pale brown. Right now, it seems too dark...and the colors really don't match her daughter's. —Jayce(20:27, 11/26/2013)

Ok, got it. I'm coming home today so I'll replicas tomorrow. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{00:37 Sat Nov 30}

Reuploaded. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{10:35 Sat Nov 30}

What's with the orange nose? Unless she's got a cite for it that I didn't see, she shouldn't have it. I also see flecks of ginger or something in the image that I can't see on the queen? —Jayce(17:41, 12/1/2013)

The orange nose is from Leafstar's images, and can you explain what you mean by the flecks of ginger? This is the queen... User:Kelpsey/Sig _{20:07 Sun Dec 1}

There seem to be spots of ginger throughout the image, like there's a few on the belly for example. She shouldn't have any ginger on her at all. o.O —Jayce(20:09, 12/1/2013)

... I colorpicked that from the warrior image so it definitely has those User:Kelpsey/Sig _{20:13 Sun Dec 1}

I don't think it's orange though. It seems like more of a brown on those images. I zoomed in on the warrior and that's what it looks like to me? —Jayce(20:19, 12/1/2013)

Like a saturated brown? Can someone give me a hex? I don't have the xcf so it's kind of difficult to match colors and whatnot. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{20:27 Sun Dec 1}

Have you attempted to request the .xcf from somebody? It's one way to take an active stand in finishing this image, rather than asking for a hex from anyone. Rain legs 20:49, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

I asked Paleh like 2 weeks ago and she hasn't replied back yet User:Kelpsey/Sig _{21:18 Sun Dec 1}

If she isn't responding to you, then I have a suggestion to see if you can get the color closer. On the "ginger" patches, lock that layer, and colorpick it. Use your color tool to slide it a little closer to red (but not pure red). That should help them look a little more brown, at least! Iveh Yo ! 19:16, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Re-up. Is this better? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:07 Tue Dec 3}

Can I get some replies? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{05:26 Thu Dec 5}

River (Ki) ~ For Approval

File:River.kit.png My little River <3 All colors are from the StarClan image. Comment away~ Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 21:58, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and he needs to be longhaired. Would you also mind adding some neck shading? It looks kinda sourceless without it. The colors don't quite match either, but I think that's because the shading is tinted on his other images, so try that? —Jayce(22:02, 11/24/2013)

hes gotta be tabby david ^🌈 22:03, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

I have a pattern for the tabby by the way - I can email the .xcf of it too you, if you want o3o Queen Beebs 22:06, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Lol, sorry 'bout that Cloudy~ I tried it. And yeah sure, Beebs, that'd be great. My email is darkfrosty.frosty@gmail.com c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 22:17, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

sent~ hope you have an easy time matching the pattern Queen Beebs 22:54, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Define your shading, it's looking flat❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 18:08, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Darken the shading too. —Jayce(18:09, 11/25/2013)

Thanks Beebs. Mind telling me how you did the stripes? I got the pattern down alright, I just can't get them to look like the StarClan's stripes. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 02:45, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, Beebs, sorry if I'm confused, but why is Dark obligated to match your pattern? She's the first artist of the set, she can make whatever pattern she wants? Or did I miss out on something? User:Kelpsey/Sig _{08:09 Tue Nov 26}

Um, Kelps, I'm tweaking the set. I also asked to make the pattern is well, so that's why she has to match mine.

To Dark, I used a size one brush, and blurred at rate one with Gaus. blur, and smudged the tail stripes with a size one brush. Queen Beebs 19:14, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Beebs. I'll have it up tomorrow. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 03:31, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Here's a friendly reminder to not forget to upload! You have until Sunday night to re-upload~ —Jayce(22:38, 11/28/2013)

Thanks, Cloudy! I'll have him up before then. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 14:08, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. x.x Well, I followed Beebs' instructions precisely~ Hope you guys like it, and won't beat me down for not being really good at tabby's. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 14:43, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken and darken the stripes a tad - they look lighter than the one I sent you ouo. Maybe try blurring lightly? Queen Beebs 14:51, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Define and darken the shading. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}16:43 Fri Nov 29

Blur the shading as well. Stoneclaw 00:11,11/30/2013

Re-uploaded. Not touching shading anymore, as it is artists choice on darkness. But I sharpened/darkened the stripes, Beebs. c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 00:17, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

That only applies to when the shading is too dark. Right now, it's currently too light. Please darken it some. —Jayce(00:21, 11/30/2013)

I think the darkness is fine on the gray, but on the stripes it's much too light, to the point where it blends with the pelt color. Also, I can't see a source. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{00:43 Sat Nov 30}

I disagree. I can't even see the shading. o.O And it's not my monitor because I just checked on multiple settings and I still can't see the shading on here... I honestly think it should be defined and darkened. The artist's choice thing only applies to the shading when you're asked to lighten the shading, not darken it.... That's what I was always taught, anyways. —Jayce(00:50, 11/30/2013)

I think the shading could be darkened some. Sure, it is artist's choice, but there is a point where you need to darken it, and I believe this image's shading needs to be darkened to be more visible ouo Queen Beebs 01:10, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's kinda hard to make it more visible with the tinting..Maybe I can use a darker gray-blue. But I won't darken it that much, since I want to keep the stripes visible. I'll get to it soon. ;) Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 14:07, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Match the stripes to the starclanner on the main body a bit. They look lighter and a different pattern to the starclanner.❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 15:29, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

If you set the stripes layer mode on multiply, they shouldn't be fading in the shading. And yeah, I agree you should darken it more. Stoneclaw 16:40,11/30/2013

Re-uploaded. Darkened the shading some, and made the stripe pattern match more. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 20:58, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

I can still barely see the shading, and it kind of merges with the color of the stripes. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}0:21 Tue Dec 3

The earpink needs more smudging User:Kelpsey/Sig _{05:29 Thu Dec 5}

Gorsetail (P3) (Q) ~For Approval

File:Gorsetail (P3).queen.png I actually picked the stupidest most complicated stripe pattern out jesus david ^🌈 02:35, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Leave more of a gap of plain grey between the last stripe closest to the shoulder and the white, and smudge it quite a bit. I think I'm going to cry ;c you just made my art skills look like crap with your amazing artyness User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:12 Tue Nov 26}

I disagree, Kelpsey. They're actually two different sides, and wouldn't be completely symmetrical. Smudging might need to be done a tad (but that's really up to the sheep to decide), but as for the plain gray gap, it's unneeded and it looks fine as-is. —Jayce(07:15, 11/26/2013)

Okay, since no one else has commented, I'm gonna CBA this. —Jayce(20:54, 11/29/2013)

So sorry to interrupt. :3 Why is it I'm always the one to break the CBA's .-. But, since you smudged all the gray fur into the white, I think you should smudge the gray into the white on the tail-tip, as well. After that, you may continue this. c: Looks amazing. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 23:18, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Murrr the solid gray is smudged into the white... But the stripes aren't. Can you smudge those in, to match the warrior? I remember, when I was doing this image someone pointed that out. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{00:03 Sat Nov 30}

They do appear smudged, though? At least to me they do... I think it just looks different because Breezey and David style their images differently, and completely matching another user's style is complicated and they're also two different sides of an image... —Jayce(08:39, 11/30/2013)

All that I see, is that the gray was smudged slightly into the white to give it that furry effect on the body. I just don't see that effect on the tail-tip. I don't see the gray smudged ever-so-slightly into the white. That's what I'm yearning to see. So sorry if I caused an argument, but I'd prefer if you would please do so, skt. ouo Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 14:12, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's smudged, but you might not be able to see it because of the tail stripes? Personally, I think the tail is fine as-is. —Jayce(18:32, 11/30/2013)

Whatever..that's fine I guess. Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 21:26, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The tail is smudged, it's just a little had to see. I smudged the shoulder grey area a bit more, and the stripes a tad, and I have no idea how I did the stripes on the first version of the queen, so I'm trying my best. david ^🌈 23:59, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit pixel-y. Maybe soften their edges just a bit, so certain sections don't look quite so square? Rain legs 03:40, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine, it's more of a style preference. Wonderful, skt~ User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:09 Tue Dec 3}

Broken Shadow (Q) - For Approval

All the colors are from her old queen image. Changes here Comments? ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 00:39, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Add just a little depth to the facial and chest shading? She looks quite pretty, Scar! Queen Beebs 19:46, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Chnages ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 02:44, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight so it's along the left (our left) belly lineart, rather than so far to the left. It throws your light source off a bit. Rain legs 15:30, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I'm pretty sure this is what you meant Changes ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 01:25, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, like that, but a little closer to the lineart. Like, so no shading is along the inside area of the belly lineart. (The highlight would be right up against it) Rain legs 20:47, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 02:04, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

I meant our left side of the belly, not to the right. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough D: Rain legs 03:39, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Wait, left as in closer to her head or tail? ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 04:09, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Closer to the tail, I believe. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:10 Tue Dec 3}

Closer to the tail Rain legs 00:37, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 05:27, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sandstorm (W Alt2) ~ For Approval

Hi there I have no idea what this is but I like it. It's the russet alt, so if I need to tweak the colors, I'll gladly do so. —Jayce(20:52, 11/29/2013)

Aww... I wanted it *pouts* Thicken the shading a bit more on the shoulder and smudge the ear-pink a touch more. She'z puuuurrrddyyy ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 00:24, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Here be you go and thank youuuu —Jayce(00:30, 11/30/2013)

Define the shading on the forehead, and I'll go CBA this. Wow this is really pretty Queen Beebs 19:55, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. —Jayce(20:02, 12/2/2013)

CBA? Queen Beebs 20:02, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but could you darken and define the shading on the foreleg closest to us? It seems rather faint in comparison with the rest of the body. Rain legs 03:38, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Eh I thought it was fine but okay whatever it didn't seem that faint unless PS is hiding layers on me again. —Jayce(10:19, 12/3/2013)

Rowanberry (Q) ~ For Approval

Comments? Queen Beebs 21:38, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Could you unblur the patches if possible just a little bit? Compared to the warrior, these patches appear blurred slightly more. —Jayce(08:35, 11/30/2013)

re-up Queen Beebs 14:56, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Sharpen the belly shading just a touch. Pretty! Rain legs 03:37, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

re-up Queen Beebs 19:21, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Nettle (Ro) ~ For Approval

File:Nettle.rogue.pngNettle~ changes be here. ❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 22:36, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Define the leg shading and blur the belly/side shading. —Jayce(08:35, 11/30/2013)

Reups ❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 12:16, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Define the leg shading for the two on the back of the image. Like the two we can't see the entire leg. I think it would be the right legs??? I can't explain it very well I'm sorry. —Jayce(07:47, 12/1/2013)

I think you mean the ones away from us, correct? _{me neither} User:Kelpsey/Sig _{09:57 Sun Dec 1}

Yes, those are the ones I mean. I'm horrible with words. —Jayce(18:12, 12/1/2013)

Reups how about the legs furthest from us? c:❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 18:47, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the hind leg furthest from us seems to cut off right before it's covered up y the other hind leg. Expand it up the leg, so it doesn't just stop so abruptly. Rain legs 20:45, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Reups❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 15:47, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Try darkening the shading on the tail just a little bit.

No, shading darkness is artist's choice; and I think it's fine.❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 15:09, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the furthest leg ---->>>>> that way. Amber ^{The One}^and ^On ^ly19:14 Tue Dec 3

Eh? I don't know what ---->>>>> means, but I think all the legs are fine.❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 19:16, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think ---->>>>> means [that side] of the image. It is an arrow. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}1:29 Wed Dec 4

Mapleshade (A) ~ For Evaluation

File:Mapleshade (A).pngThis is my apprentice charart of Mapleshade. Comments please? Ⓐngel Ⓢⓣⓤⓓⓘⓞ (talk) 22:42, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Wow! This is awesome for your first charart! Great job! Maybe define your tail and paw shading, and I think there's a bit of waste around the image.❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 22:52, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the black line at the earpink. Looks pretty, Angel. c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 23:24, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

This needs to be named File:Mapleshade.apprentice.png, other than that this is very pretty! --User:Wildd Side/Sig 07:17 Sun Dec 1

I don't think she'd get the ragged fur, as she was described with it in TLH, as a rogue, but I could be wrong. Queen Beebs 19:44, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Ki) - For Approval

Comments? --User:Wildd Side/Sig 23:32 Fri Nov 29

This... Looks... Awesome. One thing, the tail should be a little more puffy. AWESOME!!! :D User:Thundersplash2020/Sig 01:13, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

I think it looks fine. It is an extremely small blank, after all. —Jayce(01:15, 11/30/2013)

Define the eye depth. Looks pretty as always. c: Frosty^☾Sup^erna^tural 18:23, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that all colors are from her queen image, which Raven just recently did. I don't think you can really define it anymore since you only have three or four pixels of eyecolor area to start with. Although could you lighten the white a teeny bit if you don't mind? —Jayce(18:31, 12/2/2013)

I don't think she'd get the ragged fur, as she was described with it in TLH, as a rogue, but I could be wrong. Queen Beebs 19:44, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Leafpool (Q) - For Approval

Comments? --User:Wildd Side/Sig 23:32 Fri Nov 29

Go over the stripes with a tiny smudge tool lightly, just to get a slightly fuzzy texture. Great job. .o. Rain legs 00:26, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Would you mind thickening the belly shading just a bit? —Jayce(00:28, 11/30/2013)

Re-ups --User:Wildd Side/Sig 03:24 Sat Nov 30

She doesn't need to put a texture on...that's completely optional. Apple dash ^the ^light ^of ^honor 03:51, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

The texture is on all of her other images, so I assumed this one should match the others. Anyways, Raven, could you blur and thicken the belly shading a touch more? Rain legs 20:43, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Splashnose (Q) - For Approval

Just in time User:Kelpsey/Sig _{16:49 Sat Nov 30}

I can't see the stripes at all? —Jayce(18:30, 11/30/2013)

I can see them fine? I think it's just your monitor... And as for the tail, it's mottled and doesn't have stripes. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{19:00 Sat Nov 30}

No, I can barely see them.❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 19:05, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

The mottles will have to go, as she has /no/ cite for them. —Jayce(19:19, 11/30/2013)

Reuploaded I think the color should be good now. I don't want to lose that dusty hue so I'd prefer to keep them as-is. And though I removed the tail mottles, I did take it from a reference image. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{09:28 Sun Dec 1}

Define the earpink a bit? Wonderful job!❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 15:08, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

I still can't tell what are stripes and what aren't... please try and differentiate between the two, and it's not my monitor, because it's been on multiple settings and I still can't tell them apart. Also it doesn't matter if it's from a reference image; if she has no cite for them, she doesn't get them. —Jayce(18:14, 12/1/2013)

Well umm what do you want me to do about it User:Kelpsey/Sig _{20:09 Sun Dec 1}

Well, perhaps make it so the stripes can be told apart from the base? I mean, it also doesn't seem like there are any stripes on the belly at all, but instead just random streaks of brown? And the base seems far too dark, and she looks almost black and brown. Perhaps try changing things around a bit? I'm sorry but I really cannot tell what's part of the base and what's the stripes? I can't see if the brown is the base and the "blackish" color are the stripes or vise-versa? —Jayce(20:23, 12/1/2013)

Reuploaded. I'm not going any lighter than this. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{20:28 Sun Dec 1}

The base still looks a bit too dark. Maybe thin out the stripes a touch and lighten the shading, or lighten the base and stripe color just a touch more. Rain legs 20:41, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I was /not/ willing to lighten the base pelt and I forgot how I did those stripes so I screwed around a little bit and deleted 2 of my shading layers and added highlights. This isn't even dusty any more imho but whatever User:Kelpsey/Sig _{02:03 Tue Dec 3}

Dusty brown is a light-colored gray-brown. I think to make it look more dusty you'll need to lighten and desaturate the colors of the stripes a bit more, for their dark, bold color, (and the sheer amount of her pelt they take up) are taking away from that dusty color you just described being unable to see. Rain legs 03:36, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ok there we go. Thanks so much Legs User:Kelpsey/Sig _{07:15 Tue Dec 3}

Okay really stupid question. Are the stripes darker or lighter in this case? I'm sorry, I know I sound stupid, but I'd kinda like to know so I don't critique the wrong thing. Like, the only thing that even makes me question this is the belly/back areas? Especially along the upper back, there doesn't appear to be any stripes? Unless the darker color are the stripes, which if it is, completely disregard me... I seriously can't tell, I apologize. x.x —Jayce(10:23, 12/3/2013)

They're the darker color... And as for the back, (this isn't my reference image) large stripe-colored patches do exist on some marble tabbies. User:Kelpsey/Sig _{00:09 Wed Dec 4}

I think the stripes need to be lightened a bit more, as I believe when she was described as dusty-brown, the erins meant for her stripes, as well. They look too dark to be dusty still. (And for future reference, those aren't patches, those are still stripes. Very thick, clumped stripes.) Rain legs 00:02, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Mothflight (Kit) - For Approval

File:Mothflight.kit.png Comments? -Feather 17:16, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Define and expand the shading. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}22:35 Sat Nov 30

I think the body shading itself is fine and doesn't need to be expanded, but it does on the feet and maybe on the tail. —Jayce(18:49, 12/1/2013)

Thicken the shading along her side/back. Rain legs 20:41, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. -Feather 16:33, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Define the leg shading just a bit, and her back paw looks a bit flat. Maybe darken the shading around the edges? ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 19:24, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Floss (Q) ~ Withdrawn

Tee hee. [12]Amber ^{The One}^and ^On ^ly19:47 Sun Dec 1

Define your shading.❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed

Reups Amber ^{The One}^and ^On ^ly19:50 Sun Dec 1

Define the light source, and expand you shading a bit. ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}21:30 Sun Dec 1

Withdrawing coz I wanna work on something else. Amber ^{The One}^and ^On ^ly17:39 Tue Dec 3

Mitzi (KP) (Q) ~ For Approval

Evrett's a lazy bum and didn't feel like making the image himself. xD He says she's also got darker patches so Imma go fix that now. —Jayce(00:47, 12/2/2013)

Re-uploaded. <internal screaming because pattern> —Jayce(00:58, 12/2/2013)

The white looks a bit gray, mostly on the face, belly and tail. Absolutley sponetaneous❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 15:46, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

It's not white, Sorrel. It's supposed to be gray. —Jayce(17:55, 12/2/2013)

Blur or lighten up the stomach shading a tad? It makes it look like a different color compared to the rest of the gray. ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 19:23, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt Q) ~ For Approval

A dash of colour in my queens. Comments?❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 21:07, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Shading is receding from the edges of the belly and back. This is lovely, Sorrel~ ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}21:49 Mon Dec 2

Reups thank you~ ❄Sorrel _It's _{everything I} _dreamed 22:02, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the edges of the stomach shading? ☯ Mistypebble ☯ 19:21, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt. Q2) - For Approved

Swiftpaw's pretty sister from another mister.... Now in pale ginger! Emberpoppy7 (talk) 23:39, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Pretty! Lighten her up a bit, and dull the highlights. Blue star ^{Leaf flying in the wind} 23:52, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Re-upped. I'm not quite sure what you mean by dull the shading, but I lightened her a bit. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 00:31, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, Ember, you can only have one original image up at a time - and this counts as one. So, you have to either withdraw Alder or this one D: Queen Beebs 00:39, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Nooooooooooo D: Well I've been working on Alder for a month and I am not going to give up on her so this one has to go. *muffled sobs* I'm so sorry, Tawnypelt. I will avenge your withdrawal. (jkjk) Emberpoppy7 (talk) 00:45, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

re-up I've taken over Queen Beebs 22:14, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (Q) - For Approval

Dear StarClan... *gapes* All colors are from her old queen and apprentice. Changes here ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 01:55, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Round out the darker spots a bit. Rain legs 03:44, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes ~Scarlet wind^{"Time to go home Flap."} 04:12, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Smudge the spots. This is lovely~ ☽➸ Hawky ^{Void Shadowshot}1:28 Wed Dec 4

I'm not sure how to describe this, but it really doesn't look like it matches, pelt-wise. The shape of the spots seem to be it, and how they don't flow with the rest of the pelt, like how it does on the other images?? Rain legs 00:00, December 5, 2013 (UTC)